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David from Kansas
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote







This is on an auction. Says it is a Model 428 deluxe. What year would it be? Have never in my many years here in wheat country seen a Cockshutt combine, not to say that they didn't exist, just rare.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That?s because you live in Kansas. Cockshutt is a Canadian company. Before the scrappers came through I knew of at least 5 of them around here and I know there was more of them back in the old days just talking to people around here. But then again we farm 3 miles from the border. The combine would be from the late 50s.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 428 Deluxe was the last of the truly Cockshutt, the 428 and the 112 (I believe) were previous models. Following were Olivers 430, 431, 5542 and that may have been the end of Cockshutt. Capacity wise the 428 was like the MH 92, same engine, underneath as was the MH.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How about Versatile combines? Remember many years ago at a big farm show there was one there and it looked like it had been patterned off of a 95 JD. But never saw one in use around here. This was probably in the early 1970's. Anyone have a picture?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've been told the 430 and 431 was also a Cockshutt design. Rusty6 posted this on a different forum and it shows the 431 was being tested in 1961. White bought Cockshutt out in 1962 the same year the 431 hit the market. It would make sense anyway because the last Cockshutt combine of the old Massey design was the 429 so it would make since to go up to the 430/431 in this new model.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've only seen one and it was on our side of the border. They must have been more popular the closer you got to Winnipeg because they were made for over a decade.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

And what I find interesting is that Massey and Cockshutt called Brantford home
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats a dandy 428 Cockshutt...Dont let the junkers get it...My 428 Cockshutt came from WaKeeney,KS and I knew of another one in that area...Several years ago I watched a nice 428 sell for scrap at Udall,KS..I also once knew of several other Cockshutt and Co-op combines in Kansas..My 110 Cockshutt came from St Joseph,KS...Kansas had some good Cockshutt dealers..
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-david from kansas wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:46:47 02/20/1Cool How about Versatile combines? Remember many years ago at a big farm show there was one there and it looked like it had been patterned off of a 95 JD. But never saw one in use around here. This was probably in the early 1970's. Anyone have a picture?


There were a few Cockshutts and a few Versatiles around here (north central ND), not sure where the Cockshutts came from, probably sneaked south across the Manitoba, ND border.

The Versatiles were likely sold out of Farmers Union Oil Co in Rolla, ND.

Saw a "transaxial" being demoed a few times around this part of the country, as well

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is a beauty - you should buy it, and keep it covered in a nice shed between uses.

The paint looks exceptional in the picture. White paint rarely stays white, and that white looks great.

Hope to see some pictures of you driving it soon!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Somebody needs to buy that!!! Dont let the scrappers get it. that jewel needs to be in a museum. Ryan
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The combine brought $1900. Was not in running condition. Came with some extra parts.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

At that price I would think that it was a collector that bought it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Rare combine??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's a good looking example of a 428. My dad bought a new 428 in 1957, price was C$7,020. He had Cockshutts all his farming years starting with a #6 pull type which was the first Cockshutt combine and ending with a 1973 7800 which was the last year the "Cockshutt" nameplate appeared on combines, replaced by "White" only.

To be honest that 428 had some weak spots, bearings, etc. The "airplane" type tires wouldn't sink in mud - they'd just sit on top of the mud and spin. The header auger spiral met in the middle, no fingers, so it wadded the swath up the centre, plugging the feeder house and cylinder.

The 428 was replaced with an early 431 which was twice the machine. The 431's were solely a Cockshutt design, completed prior to Oliver's takeover of Cockshutt. This was confirmed in the book written by Bill Cockshutt.
 
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