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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:43 am    Post subject: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Before I ask, I know there are variables that affect the answer. This question is for those with first hand experience and thank you.

Recently purchased Allis-Chalmers 180 Diesel. I need to purchase a new (used) plow, but unsure how many bottom this tractor will pull with little trouble. I will be looking at a 14 or 16, so hit me with your wisdom please...how many bottom?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All soils are different but here on my farm in the Red Clay ground if I wanted to just drop the plow and get with the program I'd hook up a 4 bottom plow.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As mentioned, depends on the ground. Some ground a three bottom would be plenty..
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="CVPost-Traditional Farmer"](reply to post at 06:07:16 02/27/1Cool [/quote]Thank you. I also have the red clay with rocks...in some cases boulders. I like to move along at a good clip and you feel the 4 bottom should allow that in red clay ground?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As said depends on a lot of things,I have a 180 gas and a 185 diesel the 185 would move the 4 bottom a long real nice the 180 would pull it but not as easy.Also depends on how much the
tractor is weighted.Also brand of plows makes a difference I've always found Oliver plows to pull easier than most any others.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My 185 pulls 4-16's with no problem, we have some area's that are clay but mostly loam.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I assume semi mounted? 4 bottom Oliver/White. Tractor needs to be ballasted.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


This. I have a 180 gas with fully loaded CaCl 18.4X30 rears with 80-90% tires and a 4-16's fully mounted Allis 74 plow with 392 bottoms. The 180 gas pulls it OK in High 2nd in normal loam type soils in my creek bottom fields...hit a patch of red clay and it will bring it to it's knees. I'd love to have the 10 extra HP from a 185...would pull it a lot better as said. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like you want a high speed bottom verses a general purpose bottom. And that high speed will cut by one bottom you can pull.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

And the 185 would use about 1/2 the fuel doing it too.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here's my wisdom:

"pull with little trouble"......My knee jerk reaction was 3x16". How many acres do you have? If not a lot go for the 3x16". Or, I suppose you could do 4x14".

You might want one of the higher clearance plows, then maybe 3x18".

I certainly would NOT do an Allis-Chalmers 2000 series (I think) 4x16" plow. They are hard pulling things. I used to plow with a 190XT and then a 200 with that plow with the front end in the air all the way across the field. I got good at it. Smile The front tires even had fluid in them. The 190XT literally split the rear end casting plowing a corn field head land. Of course that was when I still lived on the farm in the late 60's and early 70"s.

Get yourself a nice JD, Oliver, or IH 3 bottom.

Paul
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My moldboard plow has been sitting in the fence row for the last 30 years, just where it belongs. I don't know why anyone moldboard plows
anymore.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My moldboard plow has been sitting in the fence row for the last 30 years, just where it belongs. I don't know why anyone moldboard plows
anymore.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

4-16s is plenty in our heavy soil with my 185. hardly ever plow any more,but if I do will use a bigger horse on 4bottom.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: How many bottom plow? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="CVPost-16-30 oilpull"](quoted from post at 18:37:05 02/27/1Cool 4-16s is plenty in our heavy soil with my 185. hardly ever plow any more,but if I do will use a bigger horse on 4bottom.[/quote] Thank you all for the guidance...very enlightening...have my answer...small farm, 3 bottom it is...
 
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