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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:39 pm    Post subject: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I recently purchased a parts tractor w/o engine or radiator ... to my surprise, when I started to unload it from my trailer, I noticed an extra transmission in front of the stock 9N 3-speed.

the shifter is on the right side instead of he left, and is made of cast iron...but straight, and not like the dog-leg style of the Sherman combo.

I`ve had the Howard before, but it was way different from the Sherman, and what I have...I`m not at all familiar with the Hupp trans and wonder if that is what I have...

It looks like I have to remove the shaft that holds the throw-out bearing to get the aux. trans out...but, I can`t figure out how to remove the shaft...or should I say the fork on the shaft.

Any help would be much appreciated...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like a Hupp to me, I have a TO 30 that has one. Does the handle have a ball cast on the end or is kinda
flat only, almost like an angle iron on the 'handle' end? I believe the ball end is used on the high, low,and
direct trans only. Sorry but I'm no help on any removal tricks. Greg NE
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote


the handle is straight flat cast iron...about 9 or 10 inches long with a small flat round knob at the rear... and it looks like there was something broke off the end where it goes into the tranny case...it functions fine.

thanks for the reply!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This it

 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:33 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

TomT wrote:
It looks like I have to remove the shaft that holds the throw-out bearing to get the aux. trans out...but, I can`t figure out how to remove the shaft...or should I say the fork on the shaft.


If you are referring to shaft/fork in photo, then all you have to do is disconnect the clevis assembly and rotate the clutch fork forward. This will allow you to slide the throw out bearing off of input shaft housing.


 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sound like a step up handle. A photo would help.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just removed a Sherman combo a couple of weeks ago.
Go on YouTube and punch in Ford tractor Sherman combo
transmission removal. Or punch in Kirk-NJ and some of my videos
will come up. Might be helpful
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Kirk, I thought all of the Sherman's were configured with the shifter on the left?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Thanks, L.B,...that looks real similar to mine...except, mine doesn`t have that mounting boss for a bolt in the rt. side.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dollar Bill wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:33:46 03/09/1Cool
TomT wrote:
It looks like I have to remove the shaft that holds the throw-out bearing to get the aux. trans out...but, I can`t figure out how to remove the shaft...or should I say the fork on the shaft.


If you are referring to shaft/fork in photo, then all you have to do is disconnect the clevis assembly and rotate the clutch fork forward. This will allow you to slide the throw out bearing off of input shaft housing.


Dollar Bill,

Thanks for the photo...I have the throw out brg off; but the trans is too large to go over the shaft and fork...I`ll have to remove the front snout or bearing retainer to get the fork to rotate enough to get to the pin to drive it out...your pic helped in that I could`nt tell if the pin was tapered or not
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Kirk-NJ wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:51:30 03/09/1Cool Sound like a step up handle. A photo would help.


Kirk, Thanks ...I wish I knew how to post pics...but I`m old, and I`m doing good to post on this forum...I just did figure out how to use the "quote" option when posting a reply...that helps a lot..

it appears that there are only 2 blots at the bottom of the trans that actually hold it in place...I`m guessing the input shaft keeps it centered in the flywheel, and carries the front weight.

I`ve never removed a Sherman, but I have what I believe is step up trans in one of my other 9ns...I`ll check out your video...

Thanks, TomT
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check my other Sherman videos about shifting and determining
step up from step down
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes Sherman shifter on left although I have seen some Sherman
reversers extended to the right side.
I'm moving the Sherman handle on a step up to the other side in
my 8n cause the shifter on my left would hit the trans plate and
bracket for the one arm loader.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I have a hupp and the shifter is on the right
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Non Sherman auxilary trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Kirk-NJ wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:02:50 03/09/1Cool Check my other Sherman videos about shifting and determining
step up from step down


I`m not sure how to do that...

That really sounds stupid when I say it, but it`s true...

I guess google u tube, and then search Kirk NJ???

thanks, TomT
 
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