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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:27 am    Post subject: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a problem..... I'm getting a 4 row corn planter for free. Terrible I know. Heres the problem part.... I have a WD I would like to pull it with. I have no remotes so I cant raise the planter.
What would be the best option? How about the cheapest? I have seen tractors running an auxiliary pump on the pto, where would I find this setup? How about a hand pump?
This unit would not see heavy use, just 3-4 acres a year so Getting off and pumping a hand pump isn't the end of the world.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

OR....... How about a turnbuckle type thing in place of the cylinder ? I think ive seen them??
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For something like that and you want to stay cheap a power steering pump off a Chevy pickup will do the trick and the cost is low. Then just add a control valve mount the pump so it is driven off the fan belt and do the plumbing. I did that on a Farmall B that I had built a sickle bar mower to fit it and that worked just fine and cost me nothing since I had the parts laying around. Still have enough parts like that to do it again if I wanted too
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I thought the WD had a hydraulic pump. What lifts the snap coupler? Bil. has a hydraulic loader on an old WC but I never looked to see how he operates it. When you look on tractor data it shows system holds 1.25 gallons fluid. Does he just need some hoses plumbed to the back?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yes, the WD has a pump but no remotes, the way I understood I would need to add a pump to accomplish this.
I'm thinking I may just put a jack ratchet in place of the cylinder at least for now.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A really simple solution would be to find a working Char-Lynn "HI-LO-PAC".

It's a self-contained pump, tank, and valve that drives from the PTO.

They come up for sale from time to time in local ads or on ebay.

(I have a surplus one, but have no idea of it's history or condition.)




 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

that would work great! Something I will keep my eyes open for!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Just look at the WD-45 Models...they have a "transport Valve" (Adjustable for varying delay when pulling a 4x14 semi-mount plow..

That "Transport Valve" is all you need to use a remote cylinder..

Olly one line to connect to the hydraulic pump...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You dont need an auxiliary pump or the transport valve to lift an old corn planter with a WD. All you need is a line from the proper port on the lift lower valve by the battery box and run it back to the rear and add a quick coupler. You dont need or want a large diameter cylinder on the planter with the high pressure system on the WD, you dont need it for lifting power,it will be slow and may run the sump out of oil. A 2 1/3 or 3" maximum will be good. Almost all WD45 will have the steel line and bracket the bolts to the housing line and about half the WDs will too. Go find one at a junk yard or advertise here on YT. Take a picture where the line attached to the valve or get a book, there are 4 ports. Remove the plug,run the line and attach the bracket, 15 minutes and a couple dollars and you are ready.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can same thing with a hydraulic hose if you dont wish to chase down the steel line and bracket. If you want pictures of where to attach it to the valve let me know and I will take and post a couple.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No, no, no. If your not going to put the hose and coupler mentioned below then just go out to field and let it down with handyman jack. Then plant your field. Don't raise on ends just plant right around the ends. When field is done then use handyman to pick it back up and go home. That would be your cheapest. It is not the way I would do it but if you want cheap!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I like the sounds of this but my only hitch is the three point. would the 3rd cylinder go up and down with hitch? I could possibly work around this or add a drawbar to the 3 point mount.

I appreciate your advice guys.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes the hitch lift cylinders and the remote share a common flow and pressure. Thus which ever moves with the least resistance moves first and then at the end of the stroke the other higher resistance load moves. You have three options, by far the best one for pulling a planter is to ditch the cross bar on the 3 point and find a OEM drawbar for the tractor to pull the planter with. Then lift the hitch with the hydraulics and tie the arms up, with twine so they dont delay the lift of the planter. Second option would be to place a valve in the hitch circuit so it can be set where you want it and then isolate it from the remote by closing the valve. Third option would be to rig some means to hold the 3 point hitch in place, then remove the line going to the cylinders and plug it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm very interested in this. I will check this out and give it a try! Thanks!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: I need remotes on my WD Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I ran a wd45 since 1957, do yourself a huge favor and pick up the steel line, bracket, and coupler from a salvage lot. Put the regular drawbar on the tractor if you don't already have it, and go to the field. Be sure to find a high pressure one way AC cylinder. All you need. Keep it simple.
 
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