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Proper license for truck, trailer and driver

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Class A license is the only somewhat simple question to answer. If your trailer is over 10000 gross weight and your gross combination weight is over 26000, you need a class A (USA). If your trailer is less than 10000 gvw, and your tow vehicle is less than 26000 you do not need a class A. Some states offer a non commercial class A. This is aimed primarily at people pulling RVs, but would apply if you are non commercial as well.

The definition of commercial is a bit more difficult. Federal and many of the state's have certain criteria that must be met to be non commercial.
The vehicle must be registered to a real person.
Any costs of the vehicle may not be deducted as a business expense.
Any income earned from activities involving said vehicle must be declared as ordinary income.
No sponsorship of related activities is allowed. (Ie. racing/pulling)
Some states stipulate that the use be for personal pleasure.

If you are doing farm related activities, it is considered commercial.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can go to your states . gov and get about 95% or more of what you need to know. If you live on a state line you may have to check with both states.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Doesn't mater about the other states.
I live 15 miles from In, 100 miles from Tn, as long as I'm legally licensed in Ky. mine tag is honored in all other states.
There are tags that do not allow you to cross state lines or limit how far one can travel in other states, but the OP was asking about personal tags.
For us as long as we are legal in our state with personal tags, we're legal in all other states as well, if we're operating illegal in our state, we're illegal everywhere.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

True in theory but not so true in the real World try making your case to a DOT officer 2 states away.I live in Virginia go thru 4 states on I 81 in about 40 mile stretch things can get complicated and when I hit PA I'm still under the 150 mile limit with farm tags.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote


This forum is about the worst possible place on the planet to get this information. From FMCSA website:

Overview
Driving a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) requires a higher level of knowledge, experience, skills, and physical abilities than that required to drive a non-commercial vehicle. In order to obtain a Commercial Driver's License (CDL), an applicant must pass both skills and knowledge testing geared to these higher standards. Additionally CDL holders are held to a higher standard when operating any type of motor vehicle on public roads. Serious traffic violations committed by a CDL holder can affect their ability to maintain their CDL certification.

Licensing

Driving a commercial motor vehicle is a big responsibility. It requires special skills and knowledge. Most drivers must obtain a commercial driver's license (CDL) through their home State (it is illegal to have a license from more than one State). In addition, special endorsements may be required if you or your company drivers will be driving any of the following vehicles:

a truck with double or triple trailers
a truck with a tank
a truck carrying hazardous materials
a passenger vehicle

Contact your State licensing bureau (e.g., Department of Motor Vehicles) for details.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You need to qualify that. Contact the head
office of your state agency. The local
branches are often clueless.

Local branch of DMV had my F350 registered
for 12000 lbs. Said that was what it has to
be. I read the laws and talked to the head
office. Minimum registered weight here in
ND is 2x curb weight. So for me it is 18000
lb minimum. But, the truck needs to cover
the trailer. So I am registered for 30000
now. Lady at the local office wanted to
argue when I changed it, but finally gave
in and did it.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Traditional Farmer wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:47:58 04/27/1Cool True in theory but not so true in the real World try making your case to a DOT officer 2 states away.I live in Virginia go thru 4 states on I 81 in about 40 mile stretch things can get complicated and when I hit PA I'm still under the 150 mile limit with farm tags.




I have and won, I've traveled Ky, WV, VA, Tn, Al, In, Il Wi, Mn, and Ia towing a trailer with my 26000 lb Ky farm tags. As I said in a earlier post 26000 lb Ky farm tag has unlimited milage, if I move up to the over 26000 lb Ky Farm tag milage is limited along with other regs I have to abide by.

The OP asked about personal tag and so far this entire thread as been about Commercial, Farm or tags other than personal.

I do agree the OP should contact their state agency's to get the proper answer for Their state.

I used to load out of Winchester, Va. I remember that little stretch of I81 where you go from Va thru WV and Md into Pa while traveling less than 40 miles.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Then I guess you tell the BMV in your state you consulted with the yesterdays tractors brain trust and according to them this is how it is.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

>26,000 lbs gross combined = Class A required

<26,000 lbs gross combined = No Class A required.

DOT numbers are not required if your not operating commercially.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think you meant
<26,000 GVWR needs Class A CDL
>26,000 GVWR doesn't need CDL
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-ThatAllisGuy wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:56:51 05/18/1Cool I think you meant
<26,000 GVWR needs Class A CDL
>26,000 GVWR doesn't need CDL


AllisGuy, you might want to check your symbol use.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

He has it right. Open end is greater than, point end is less than...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Proper license for truck, trailer and driver Reply to specific post Reply with quote

LOL, that's great.
 
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