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Michaeljp86
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:29 pm    Post subject: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm working on pulling out a vineyard and won't have time to get it planted in time for a harvest this year. So I was wondering if I could plant something like wheat in there and be able to harvest it in the spring next year with enough time to also put it in beans after I harvest it?

I've never grown wheat but most guy plant after they combine beans in October. And harvest the wheat in July.

So if I plant it in July or August will I be able to harvest it in time to plant beans in June?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Your general location would really help.

In my climate double cropping doesn't work, summer too short.


Few 100 miles south and it starts working.

Paul
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I live in michigan, the wheat would be in over winter. Normally wheat is about 8" high by the time winter hits but if I got it in earlier where I could harvest it in june instead of july I can still plant beans. Thats my theory anyways.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dad grew winter wheat a couple years way, way back. It would winter kill here, winters are just too tough.

Anyhow, from what I remember, planting earlier or later in fall affected how thick the stand was and how well it survived winter, but didn't change the harvest time much at all?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here in central Kansas we sow our wheat around the first of October, it grows up three or four inches, then goes dormant over winter. The cold weather triggers a stage called vernalization which is required in order for the plant to produce a seed head. After vernalization has occurred and the wheat comes out of its dormancy in spring the next stage is jointing which is when a node containing the seed head bud emerges from the ground. If seriously cold weather occurs after this node emerges from the ground significant damage will occur. This happened in 2008 when we had temperatures in the teens around Easter, long after the wheat had jointed. It was a total disaster - some guys didn't even get their combines out of the shed that summer.

What I've observed here is that regardless of when the wheat was sowed in the fall it all joints and is ready to harvest pretty much on the same schedule the following spring/summer.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Must not be too hard to plant wheat to make it grow bought a marked down bag of wildlife plot mix last Fall at TSC and just broadcast it into a already growing stand of
Crimson Clover it was about 50% wheat seed.It came up last Fall and now I have a good stand of wheat that's headed out nicely and its being mulched by the Crimson Clover that died back now after blooming.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I put in rye and Austrian Field Peas last fall. Got them off this April and planted sorghum-sudan (haygrazer) which is running around 3-4' as I type. Gotta give mamma nature credit this time. She smiled on me.....can't do it without her help. Grin
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some of your plan will work. Some I think won't. Winter wheat in your area needs to be planted in mid to late September, as close to the "fly free date" as possible, which varies by county. You can't plant 2 months early and harvest 2 months early. And yes, you can double crop beans behind it. But the yield potential is low at best. They need to be planted immediately and hope for rain in July and August. No till is best in this situation to preserve moisture. Good luck and let us know the outcome
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Planting wheat or other crop to harvest in spring Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Double cropping in Michigan is extremely hard. I've seen guys try it, but you probably won't make much money on the beans. You'd probably be lucky to get 20 bushels at best. Just not enough days in the growing season.
 
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