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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:17 am    Post subject: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just purchased a sickle mower. Can anyone tell me what model this is? I was able to mount to the 2-point and it turns free but I can't figure out how to mount the arm to raise and lower the bar. What am I missing? Where does this arm mount (arm leaning against the cylinder). This doesn't appear to go up to the rock shaft. Did I get a mower for the wrong tractor?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The arm is usually a chain that bolts on below the cylinder that lifts your 2 point. The steel arm might work (depending on what the last guy had it mounted on) but a chain easier to adjust to correct length.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is a C-24-P because it has the double spring.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The triangular plate with the flat bar and the chain seem to be home made. I have the manual for the C-21 (1 spring version) and the connecting rod to the Rock shaft should connect directly to the cast vertical rod by the pulley. But I think your rear light is going to be in the way.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 11:19:34 06/11/1Cool With photo.


I believe that looks like it might be the setup to mount the mower to a Farmall 230. To mount the mower on a Super C, remove the metal strap that`s attached to the triangular steel plate, it`s not used. Unhook the chain from the triangular steel plate also. The triangular piece can stay hanging there but isn`t used either (it`s not homemade). Then hook a chain between the outer rockshaft on the left side of the Super C and the cast arm you removed the chain from. Originally, there was about a 4 to 5 foot length of rod with some chain at the end that hooked between the 2 points. You`ll have to adjust the length to get it to work, not hard to do. There is supposed to be an axle bracket going down from the axle to the mower on the right side , but it will work without it. It is a C-24 mower, by the way. My dad cut ALOT of hay with one and I still have it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Great description. BTW, I have one too and you can't tilt the cutter bar up correct? Only raise up and down vertically with the cylinder and change the pitch of the cutter bar rock guards up or down....right?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So is this truly a C-24-P mower? Does anyone have a manual I can buy or find? You say it mounts below the cylinder, any idea what it mounts too? I am open to any ideas if you have an idea where it should go. I don't know that there is anything under the cylinder unless I build a new bracket. Would it work to run the shaft up to the rock shaft or will that not work properly? I have more pictures if it would be beneficial. As it stands right now, the arm shown below lines up with the cylinder. Tried looking for any kind of videos online and nothing showed this exact mower.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks Everyone for the help! I don't have the bar that goes up to the rockshaft but have talked with someone in Illinois to try and get a picture or dimensions to try and make one. I'd still be curious to
find a manual for it. Based on the attached picture, do I still need the axle mount or will this "spring" breakaway that ties back into the 2-point work for the same purpose?

Mark, I don't suppose you have a picture of your mower mounted?


 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I didn't have the axel clamp for the hex shape so I made one up so the connecting brace can attach. The right side connection to the axel is important because it controls the lead when the bar is being pushed back by grass. I have the manual for the C-21 which is essentially the same and I can send a pic of what I did on the axel if you send an email
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-intlboy@hotmail.co wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:59:01 06/12/1Cool So is this truly a C-24-P mower?

In a word...no. After getting a good look at the rear of the mower, something wasn`t looking quite right to me. The bracket for raising the cutter bar looks different than either the C-21 or C-24. But what really tipped me off was the position of the pulleys. On a C-21 or C-24, the pulleys are directly above/below each other. On yours, the bottom pulley is offset to the left looking at it from the rear. Doing a little digging, I feel confident that it`s a U-F28 or the succeeding model C-28. They were made for the 300 and 350 Utility tractors and 300,350,400 & 450 Farmalls. It will work just fine on your Super C. A fellow who may have a manual for your mower is " The Paper Farmer" Mike Becker out of Chippewa Falls,WI...715-726-1942
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have one of these mowers. It is a U-F28 and it is for a Utility 300 with a depth control arm. That is what the metal strap you are showing attaches too. I have mine attached to my 53 Super C. One of the guys in my tractor club has a 300, so I took some measurements and came up with this bracket. Binder Books has all the operator and parts manuals you need. I get parts from Webs Sickle Service. The pitman bearing and the pitman stick comes from my local IH dealer. The pitman bearing is not cheap. Belt and other bearings and seals from NAPA. Sorry the pictures are on their side, I have a new phone.



 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All I know is that on a Farmall 300, the flat bar goes on the end of the pin at the lift cylinder (take the hairclip or cotter pin off slide bar on and replace hairclip/cotter pin) you remove the pin in the collar on the lifting shaft and a short chain on the other side holds two point in position (height wise). the movement of the cylinder stroke then raises and lowers the cutterbar. Hope this helps. Used a 100 balance head mower like that for many years. If needed I can try posting a picture from the manual for our 100.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks like you guys are right about the offset pulleys and on the lifting arm. When that cast arm moves, does the cutter bar actually start to raise up and fold toward the tractor? I imagine the C-21 works the same way and someone told me that it only changes the cutting angle of the rock guards/cutting blades.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 2-Point Sickle Mower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, that is what happens. The nice thing about having this mower on the fast hitch is you are able to make a lot of adjustments.
 
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