Yesterday's Tractor Co.
Shop Now View Cart
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile    Log inLog in 

Hard steering 51 VAC


 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Farmallb
Tractor Expert


Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 2815


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I got a 51 VAC that is near impossible to steer. I greased every Zerk I could find, but that didn't really help. There is a collar below the gas tank that surrounds the steering post on the other side of the dash panel that surrounds the post. I sprayed and turned over and over till I got it to where I could turn it but still plenty stiff. Any ideas?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
connor9988
Tractor Expert


Joined: 04 Oct 2012
Posts: 1800


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The tube that the steering shaft goes through into the dash is full of old grease and rust. Case only put a grease fitting towards the lower end of tube (inside the dash) on the later models and that fitting would really only fill the bottom portion of the tube with grease before oozing out the bottom. I had the exact same issue. I ended up pulling the steering shaft all the way out and cleaning both the shaft and inside the tube out. I also added a new bushing while I was at it. once everything was cleaned up I added a grease fitting on the top end of the tube (drilled a hole in the tube, welded a small nut on it, then screwed the fitting in). After that it steers easy and has ample grease in the tube. Was well worth it!
 
Back to top
View user's profile
kenbob
Regular


Joined: 22 Nov 2017
Posts: 343


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

just to be clear. They changed the steering in mid 51. Some have the steering wheel shaft going into a gear box. The other, the steering wheel is a bit cockeyed and the shaft runs along side of the tractor with no steering arm protruding in the front of the tractor. All the gears for this model are on top of the steering pedestal. If you have that one, there is a zirk that you can grease up there. If the person owned the tractor didn't have a manual, it probably didn't get greased. Those are tractors serial 5570000 and later.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Bruce from Can.
Tractor Guru


Joined: 09 Jul 2009
Posts: 7805


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I?ll second conners reply, we had the very same issue with our VAC 14. The tube the steering shaft ran through was rusted and gumed up with old grease and dirt fro the last 60-70 years. And was not allowing the shaft to turn freely with in the tube.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
connor9988
Tractor Expert


Joined: 04 Oct 2012
Posts: 1800


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here are a couple pictures of the grease fitting on the steering tube. I thought I had a picture that was closer but I cant find it.


 
Back to top
View user's profile
kenbob
Regular


Joined: 22 Nov 2017
Posts: 343


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you decide you have the new style steering, a word of caution. If you find it has no grease in the box above the pedestal grease away, but if you get the urge to take it apart, the end bearing in there seems to be no longer availible and the only cross reference bearing is a 37 Chevy, or so Ive been told.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Farmallb
Tractor Expert


Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 2815


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mine don"t have the collar on the outside of the dash, its behind the dash.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Farmallb
Tractor Expert


Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 2815


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Went out and looked, my Ser# is 3570000
 
Back to top
View user's profile
connor9988
Tractor Expert


Joined: 04 Oct 2012
Posts: 1800


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Either your SN is wrong or that is not a 1951 model.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Farmallb
Tractor Expert


Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 2815


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's definatly the serial # so I guess I was told wrong on the year.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe (Wa)
Tractor Expert


Joined: 01 Jan 1999
Posts: 2184


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is no 3570000 tractor serial numbers for any letter series Case tractors. Check your first digit again, 5570000 would be a 1951 letter series tractor like a VAC. It would have a steering system as per the link.

Joe
https://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts search.html?csid 6c60f69ec89a889cd6012b795b64e96f&sl EN¤cy epc::mr66944ar444518

 
Back to top
View user's profile
Farmallb
Tractor Expert


Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 2815


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I thought I wrote serial No 5570000
 
Back to top
View user's profile
kenbob
Regular


Joined: 22 Nov 2017
Posts: 343


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That would make it the first tractor off the line with the new steering.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Farmallb
Tractor Expert


Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 2815


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Its got 3pt, and pulley.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
kenbob
Regular


Joined: 22 Nov 2017
Posts: 343


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: Hard steering 51 VAC Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There are two u-joints along the side of the tractor. They are reasonably easy to disconnect. Taking one of those off should tell you if it is a tight stearing shaft, or tight gears up front. I suppose those knuckles could also bind. Mine have no zirks on them, though it looks like there was a place for them.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Case and David Brown All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
Fast Shipping!  Most of our stocked parts ship within 24 hours (M-Th). Expedited shipping available, just call! Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors. Compare our super low shipping rates! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor. We are a company you can trust and have generous return policies. Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ About Us ]

YT Home  |  Forums

Modern View Forum powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters