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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: 500 bushel grain cart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What is the smallest tractor (horsepower) that could safely haul and stop a loaded 500 bushel grain cart?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: 500 bushel grain cart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It isn't so much a horsepower requirement as it is a weight and drawbar requirement. You will want as much weight as possible given the horsepower you have. You will also want a tractor with a substantial drawbar to carry the tongue weight. I've had a couple of 500 bushel carts and have ran both of them at different times with a 4020 that is fully weighted (it weighs around 13,500 lbs.). I wouldn't want anything smaller on it. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 500 bushel grain cart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I tell you one thing, got a cart we load to about 350 bu. (all we really want on a single axle 14 ft. bed) and I was crazy enough to put it on an 806 one time... It did it, but pulling it was worse than actually running the pto. Even in first, it seemed real REAL rough on the clutch. The 886 does alright with it, but the 1086 does much better, we use it mainly due to the duals anyhow.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: 500 bushel grain cart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My brother runs his 4450 MFWd on his 500 cart, its a fair load. Like others said, the drawbar can be the weakest link. I have seen a few guys run a chain under the drawbar and up to the 3pt arms, just so its snug, to take out the bounce and give it some support. The softer the fields the more tractor and wheels you need out front.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: 500 bushel grain cart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I’d shoot for 100 HP 2 wd as a minimum. I’m sure a smaller tractor would get it around, and a bigger one would get the job done better. Lots of factors to consider…how much field work vs. how much road / high speed work. How much weight it throws onto the tractor hitch…you need enough for adequate traction and braking. How hard will you drive it? Does the cart have brakes? If not, 2wd will stop it, but not on a dime, and expect the tractor brakes to protest a bit, and increased wear. Duals will help, and FWA with all round braking will help more. Field conditions….dry and firm, or soft and wet? Truck tires on the cart or good floatation tire etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: 500 bushel grain cart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When grain carts first started to catch on- early 80s, guys were trying them on their 4020s, 4320s, and 4430s, and sometimes breaking drawbars. Deere even came with a heavy-duty drawbar without the extra mounting holes for the clevis (that's where they would break).

It all depends how hard you run and how fast you drive, and how your cart is set up. First-generation carts (JD1210, etc.) had the wheels at the back, so a lot of tongue weight. Later ones were better balanced. If your kid goes cowboying out across the rows like he's in the Indy 500, and you've got extensions on the cart to hold a few more bushels, you can expect problems.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: 500 bushel grain cart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We just bought a 450 bushel M&W and put it on our 160hp 4640 dualled up. In our hills here in SW WI, I wouldn't want any less of a tractor. I'd NEVER pull it with our 4020 or 4430 around here. You may get away with a smaller tractor on flat land.
 
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