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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am having a problem that I think is pump timing, but I guess it could be something else.
When attempting to crank after sitting, the starter drags like it is having difficulty turning the engine over. I can hear fluid bubbling in the engine. If I try several times, the engine will spin over easily and crank. Sometimes this is one or two key switch cycles and sometimes it takes a few more. i suspect that I have excess diesel in the cylinder and this is where I am getting the bubbling sound.
Injector pump was rebuilt recently. Any ideas?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

assuming it has run since the rebuild.. I'd suspect the gurgling sound you may hear to be one of 2 things..

1, oil running back down from top end, or

2, compression leaking from cyls after a failed no-start.

When I got my 3000 it did the same thing.. barely turn over.. dink with it.. then turn over fine.

Mine was a bad starter (80% ), bad cable ends 5%.. and bad battery.. had a weak cell 15%

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

by the way.. when you go to pull the starter.. park out of earshot of sensitive ears.. as you will cuss ford a lil.. Smile that back bolt on the starter is hard to get to.

if you remove some lines stuff.. it's doable with monkey hands. otherwise.. removing lots of lines and the fuel filter assy is almost mandatory..

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yea, I've taken that starter off before and had it rebuilt. Several years back. Sat for a long time since. New Cables and fairly new battery.
Could use a bigger battery. The starter and cables will get hot very quickly when this condition occurs. Once I get it to spin it spins over nice. I may go ahead and take it off and clean it.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Man...I thought I was the only one that said "dink with it"...
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

my diesel sits outside!! when it rains,water runs down the exhaust pipe,into the manifold as the pipe isn't real tight. water gets on top of piston and makes it sluggish to turn over. you then get a black mess out of the pipe when it does start.???
leaking injector could let fuel in also.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"when it rains,water runs down the exhaust pipe,into the manifold as the pipe isn't real tight. water gets on top of piston and makes it sluggish to turn over."

If too much water gets on top of a piston when it's in the full down position, then you could seriously damage the engine when you try to start it, as a fluid can't compress like a gas can.

Off road 4x4 owners always pull all of their spark plugs and turn the engine over a few times to purge the water out of the cylinders if the engine gets submerged and has possibly sucked in some water on a over zealous "off road adventure".
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

well there's at least 2 of us!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

sound slike you need to invest in a coffee can.. or dog food can to leak over yer stack...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard start on ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

$4.00 worth of JB weld on that exhaust pipe joint cures that water problem easily. Get the slow cure type (24 hours), good to 600 degrees F.
 
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