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Starter Removal on 1948 8N


 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Starter Removal on 1948 8N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I removed the two long bolts and the starter housing came off easily but the armature and shaft will not come out of the tractor housing.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Removal on 1948 8N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The starter has 3 major exterior components; front plate, barrel & rear plate. The 2 bolts that hold the starter on to the bell housing go through all three components & hold it all together. To remove the starter, unscrew the bolts out of the block & put a nut on one of them. Otherwise, the starter comes apart. Not fatal, but not fun either as you are about to see. (tip # 36 at the link below) Then, loosen the two bolts holding the oil filter canister to the block, (it does not need to be removed) remove the dipstick, and keep the starter close to the block while pushing the front of it down and lifting the back up. Sometimes you have to remove the drain petcock as well.The bendix is behind the flywheel; your job is to get it over the flywheel.

Caution: while the starter is off, resist the temptation to screw with the bendix. If you extend the bendix, and it is not the OEM bendix w/ the big spring, you will have a hard time getting the starter installed.

To install the starter, keep it close to the block while pulling the front of it up and pushing the bendix back into the hole. The bendix has to go behind the flywheel; your job is to get it over the flywheel. Grinding out an egg shape at the 2 o'clock position before you put it back will make your life easier.

Lastly, while the starter is off, polish the block & all starter mating surfaces w/ sandpaper to insure a good electrical ground. First, clean the mating area between the barrel and rear plate. Then, clean the mating surfaces where the aluminum rear plate meets the bell housing. The starter's ground circuit is not only through the two long bolts but from the barrel to the rear plate & then to the bell housing as well.

Lots of ways to put the starter back together. Some folks use alligator clips, toothpicks or dental floss to hold the brushes back. Others remove the metal band and paper gasket, then put starter back together. Pull brushes up thru the holes that the band was covering. Use long nose pliers to pull the brush springs up. Move each one to the right and let them rest on the brush holder. Put each brush into holder. Pull up each spring and place it on each brush. Put the gasket and metal band back on.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Removal on 1948 8N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey Kencav,
You have to Be The (Tractor).
If you wiggle the rest of the stuff out And Take Bruce's Suggestion About modifing the starter opening Your new Starter will go in like New Money.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Removal on 1948 8N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Getter-Done wrote:
(quoted from post at 23:45:24 10/29/09) Hey Kencav,
You have to Be The (Tractor).
If you wiggle the rest of the stuff out And Take Bruce's Suggestion About modifing the starter opening Your new Starter will go in like New Money.


I personally believe that all of the N tractors since about '44 up have the egg shaped starter hole, factory.

I wish John Smith would comment on this post.
 


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Starter Removal on 1948 8N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This is too good! I came into the house after trying for an hour to get the starter out and figured somebody in this group would know the secret trick. Here it is posted the same day!

Thanks Bruce!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter Removal on 1948 8N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You're welcome. Glad to help.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Starter Removal on 1948 8N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks Bruce - now if you can help me with these Louisiana mosquitoes while I finish removing the starter - they love Deet.
 
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