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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a MM 1355 for sale last summer. Mr. Woodrmm called and spoke for the tractor. We agreed that he could put some money down on it and the remainder could be paid at the time of pick up.
That was in June.
Having heard nothing more from him, I contacted him again in Aug. or Sept. (Can't recall w/o looking back) He told me that he'd lost my number and that he was still trying to find someone to haul the tractor for him.
By October, I still had heard nothing so I attempted to call him again. He no longer answers his phone nor returns the numerous messages I have left him.
I looked up what I believe to be his home number and tried him there. I have only gotten a woman that I presume to be his wife. She always says that she will give him the message to call me but I have yet to get that call.
This AM I called and asked if he was there. She said, Yes, just a minute..." Then, a few seconds later... "Oh, I guess he's in the shower."
I left my number again but have still received no call.
I don't want to sell a tractor out from under a guy that has $1000 down money on it but I can't sit on it forever.
In my messages I told him that he didn't necessarily have to move it immediately but I would like the balance due since we are now pushing 6 months.

Anyone know this guy??
What's the deal??
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'd guess he doesn't have the rest of the money to pay for the tractor and that's why he's avoiding you. You can't be expected to hold it forever. I think? you can legally keep his deposit but if you wanted to be nice, could return all or a portion of it. Then sell it to someone else. Try leaving a message that says he has 48 hours to contact you or he forfits his deposit. If that doesn't get a response, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If it wants his deposit back, I'm sure he'll contact you. Might want to have a quick call to a lawyer to see if he's entitled to get his deposit back after 6 months. Dave
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Even though a set term is not in writting, the law allows and observes what is "resonable". If you have the documentation of your extended attempts to contact him, the conversation with his wife confirming that you were calling the correct number, etc., I say you are clear to do whatever you wish once you have given him final notice.
Just to safe, maybe a certified letter that requires ONLY his signature, then he cannot come back on you at all.
If he signs it, he has been properly notified. If he refuses to sign it, you are free and clear.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ASSUMING you have been paid in good funds, I would send him a certified check refunding his money by certified mail.

Been there, done that.

And don't wait so long next time!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would call again and explain to the female that you have 1000 bucks of his money and he needs to call in regards to those funds. Then its one certified letter since you know he showers there. After that, have dinner and relist the unit. Anything within reason is acceptable, after that, uh no.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would send him certified notice that he has X many of days to pay the balance in full. If he does not do that then I would relist the item. After it sells if you get what you had orginally wanted then I would send his money back BUT if you can"t get what you had a agreed on because the market changed then take the difference out of his deposit and send him whatever is left.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

bout some hubs from him but cant find his number. sounded like a real straight fellow.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If it were me, I'd let him know you're advertising it for sale again. If the guy doesn't come up with the rest of the $$, sell it to someone who actually does. If the guy asks for his money back, let your concience be your guide...
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

By way of an update...
I've called and talked to the same woman 2 or 3 more times. Each time she assures me that she has given / will give him the message to call.
A couple times ago she said he told her that he had tried but couldn't get a hold of me.
When I told her that my phone was on 24/7 and there had been no missed calls and no voicemails, she just didn't know what to say.
This guy may be a decent fella'... I don't know.
Unfortunately, he's looking more and more like a deadbeat to me all the time.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"This guy may be a decent fella'... I don't know".

Yes you do! Don't waste any more time on him. Check with a lawyer but I think you're entitled to keep the deposit after so many days/months. Even if you aren't, let him get a hold of you and sue you if he feels cheated. You could counter that is was a breach of contract and/or charge him storage on top of the rest of the money for the tractor. In the mean time relist the tractor and don't worry about him at all. There's a reason he's not contacting you but that's his problem, not yours. I'm guessing he thinks you want the the rest of the money and he doesn't have it. You didn't have a deal with the woman, so stop calling her. He's got your messages and is avoiding you. Why should you care, you've got a $1000 and still have the tractor. Dave
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

dave not everybody thinks like you do thankfully why don't you stop berating the guy he does have a conscience unlike you. he does not want to roast the guy he wants an equitable and fair ending to this situation. why do you feel the need to order him around and do his thinking for him? al
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:12 am    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

He posted on a forum! He's called numerous times and left numerous messages. It would be in the other guys best interest to call him back. How many times should he have to leave a message or how long should he wait? 100 messages or 2 years, which ever takes longer? Maybe if he does advertise the tractor again it won't sell or will sell for less. Should he have to lose money because someone expects him to hold the tractor indefinately and won't even let him know what's going on? I wasn't ordering him around. I gave him a suggestion that I think others would agree with. Do you think a dealer would hold a tractor for months on end and keep phoning and leaving messages? There comes a time when you have to say enough is enough. If the guy wants any of his deposit back, he should call. If you take something in for repairs and leave it too long, the shop has a legal right to sell it. He could have lost a lot of prospective buyers waiting to hear back from the guy. Dave
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not sure I would use a "dealer" as a back board on this one. Many dealers would have us believe that money is more important to them than it is us. That is how they try to justify always trying to get the bigger end of the stick, instead of just making fair deals where both parties come out good.
It appears that this seller is one to model. He is going beyond the call of duty, not just being stupid greedy thinking, "ummmm, got $1,000 and still got my tractor, what a deal!"
The high road is to always try to do what is right, the low road is extremely crowded these days and is getting worse.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think he's done just about everything he can to get a hold of the guy. He's got $1000 and still his tractor. That's the point. He'd rather not have the tractor and have the rest of the money that was agreed upon. He's not taking the low road if the guy won't contact him after repeated messages. I think from a legal stand point, he could take the guy to court for the rest of the money and give him the tractor in exchange. The guy that gave the deposit is the one that has to do something, anything, instead of just ignoring all the calls. The seller has given the guy every opportunity but the guy has his head in the sand. Dave
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve Woodrum - Flying S Farms Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree with your post. As far as refunding some of the money, I think it should be dependent on what he ends up selling the tractor for. If he gets the same price, refund about 80% of the deposit for his trouble. Since the guy is avoiding him, he could wait till the guy actually contacts him before just sending any money. It's in the guys best interest to contact the seller and the seller has done everything possible to accomadate him. The seller put the ball in the other guys court. It's up to him to do something with it. Dave
 
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