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atwater Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: how big? |
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bought this AR puller recently. looks like a fair amount of clearance work has been done but the cam appears to not have been notched. assuming a 3" pin and billet rods how long of a crank do you think should fit? i also have a 6-3 PB sitting here in need of new sleeves + pistons.
trying to sell a 51 mi and 43 a to help raise funds. |
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atwater Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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forgot to add photos.
i had not noticed until i took the cover off but they had a patch on top of the case between the crankcase cover and govenor.
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JD G 51 puller Guest
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: Re: how big? |
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Something doesn't look right. It doesnt come close to hitting the crankcase cover. My guess someone put the stock crank back in. But anyhow stock rods 7 3/4 with cam notch, 9 3/4 with 4020 rods and cam notch. Go big or go home:) |
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atwater Regular
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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yes it is the stock stroke hence why it needs some"help"
i have never stroked one before and was wondering how much stroke could be safely run with a clearanced cam and what has already been done to the case.
can a powerblock be bored and resleeved to 6.5 and still be reliable? or are you stuck with the typical 6.125? |
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BushogPapa Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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Ray at "Extreme" can tell you what can be done with your PB..
Ron.. |
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Mike N Mo Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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If you want a reliable crank, go with a 9" or 9.125" with a 3" pin. There are some 9.25"/3" pin out there, but you'll probably break camshafts.
As far as your 6-3 powerblock, I'm not sure a 6.5" sleeve can be fitted in there. The earlier blocks are much better to work with because there's only 6 block-to-crankcase bolts to work around instead of 8. Also, the chances of having sleeves welded in and not leaking water are pretty slim. If you do go that route, I suggest using a cast or ductle iron sleeve material rather than a steel sleeve that typically has been used in blocks that have the welded-in-sleeves. If you want a reliable big bore block for a late A (to replace a 6-3), talk to Jeff at Murphys Motor Service. He has a good solution that works well. If you're on a budget and have to choose between a stroked crank or a big bore block, I'd do a stroked crank first, seems to get you more power/dollar spent. Good luck, Mike |
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Deere power New User
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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9 1/4 will fit just fine just notch camshaft and notch sleeves so the rods miss |
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jd b puller Tractor Expert
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:42 am Post subject: Re: how big? |
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| atwater wrote: | (quoted from post at 23:58:02 12/19/11) bought this AR puller recently. looks like a fair amount of clearance work has been done but the cam appears to not have been notched. assuming a 3" pin and billet rods how long of a crank do you think should fit? i also have a 6-3 PB sitting here in need of new sleeves + pistons.
trying to sell a 51 mi and 43 a to help raise funds. |
Someone else may chime in and correct me but I was thinking that the AR was quite a bit heavier than the A. The 43A might be a better choice to turn into a puller. The AR would also likely have more value to it and be able to put more $ into the 43A.
I've sleeved dozens of Powerblocks, most to 6.125" (you can bore them to 6.125", the ones I sleeved were broken sleeves), and several to 6.25". 6.375" looks doable (and rugged), but 6.5" looks to be pushing the limits a little. |
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atwater Regular
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: Re: how big? |
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tractor has already been modified quite abit fenders were bobbed. platform was modified as well. i think with no weight added this ar would be about 5000 lbs as is. of course with some work more could be dropped.
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gwhva New User
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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Was this tractor purchased at the NYS JD Expo last year? |
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atwater Regular
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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| gwhva wrote: | | (quoted from post at 01:40:30 09/17/12) Was this tractor purchased at the NYS JD Expo last year? |
yes was dynoed at 38 altough for what i paid i was ok with it. |
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John 37A Regular
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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Can you postsome more pics of the tractor? |
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atwater Regular
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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| John 37A wrote: | | (quoted from post at 00:40:08 09/19/12) Can you postsome more pics of the tractor? |
i try to get some better ones tomorrow. |
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John 37A Regular
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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Thanks, looks like a neat tractor. I'm getting more and more into variations from row crop models as pullers. |
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atwater Regular
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: how big? |
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| John 37A wrote: | | (quoted from post at 01:55:31 09/19/12) Thanks, looks like a neat tractor. I'm getting more and more into variations from row crop models as pullers. |
not very good pics but the best i could find at the moment |
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