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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:25 pm    Post subject: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i am wanting to add a joystick in my 4240 with
soundgard cab instead of using the hydralic outlets
but when i called my deere dealership the kid had no
clue what i wanted and told me they were not made
anymore? Surely someone makes a kit or was this just
a kid that gave the wrong answer i was on hold for
10 mins then he told me this dont sound right if
there is one where can i get one?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Assuming the joystick controls are still available you would be better served to talk to a salesman rather than a parts man. The joystick used to be available through Whole Goods and would be much cheaper going that route. If the joystick is not available that way now you have no choice but to order it through parts (pricey) or go with some kind of aftermarket control which is readily available and most of the time work very well. I got mine through Surplus Center in Nebraska. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

JD web site has a parts book online with the info. A phone call to a minimum wage kid doesn't work around here either.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I bet they still have one. Here is a picture of one we put on our 4240 about 5 years ago, and if you look closely it says "John Deere" right on the joystick housing. Call back and talk to someone that knows something.

David
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

sc4240 wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:25:04 02/09/12) i am wanting to add a joystick in my 4240 with
soundgard cab instead of using the hydralic outlets
but when i called my deere dealership the kid had no
clue what i wanted and told me they were not made
anymore? Surely someone makes a kit or was this just
a kid that gave the wrong answer i was on hold for
10 mins then he told me this dont sound right if
there is one where can i get one?


Here's one from Nortern Tool that's just the handle with mounting bracket & cables.Prince Joystick Assembly for Monoblock Valves, Model# 660170061
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Make sure you're sitting down when you price the one from JD wholegoods. I wanted one after the one that came with our westendorf loader kept falling apart and it was $1300 that was 10 yrs. ago. Still don't think that was right but got the one for the older tractor from northern tool and haven't had a chance to put it on yet.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just installed one like the one above a few months ago for a friend that I installed a new 740 JD loader on his 4430. Wasn't to bad of a job. chris sorry don't know the price
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i jut happen to have one in the corner of my shop both cables are broken but valve and joystick are in good shape bbrown56 at hotmail.com
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The thing that no one has mentioned, is that you must purchase a power beyond block to go behind your first SCV to supply and return your oil. Even if you use a ported filter cover, you will still need a place to get the oil. They are around $200 from deere parts. Comes in a kit that will have everything you need. Don't get to thinking you will save a buck and get the oil by putting a tee in the high pressure line just after the steering and brake supply tee. The loader will work great, but nothing else will while your using the loader. Such as the steering wheel. As far as the valve goes, just go aftermarket. You can get joystick and cable kits for both cross and prince valves. I put a cross in my cousin's 4240 last year. It worked out nice. Had to bend the handle a bit to make it comfortable. The quad range shifters get in the way to put the stick where you want it. Syncros aren't quite so bad, and a power shift wouldn't be a problem at all. I don't like leaning and reaching for a joystick, as we do alot of loader work.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i know i got to have the block behind the first scv but i dont need the ported return filter housing do I?
also if i use the northern stick kit what else would i need it mentions a monoblock not sure bout that i would rather have the deere set up
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No, you don't have to have the ported filter, because the return off the 1st remote makes a beline to the filter, not the sump. If it is the Northern setup that I am thinking about. I think that the stick is on the valve. You want your valve on the loader subframe or mounted on the fram rail of the tractor. You only want cables running up in the cab, not hoses with oil. I have seen, even dealers mount valves on the loader frame, and not the subframe, but that is not user friendly. You want to be able to remove the loader without doing anthing but uncoupling the hoses going to the loader. Just my thoughts.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Craig C wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:55:32 02/09/12) The thing that no one has mentioned, is that you must purchase a power beyond block to go behind your first SCV to supply and return your oil.


I had a 158 loader with a JD joystick on a 4240 and then moved it to a 4255 and neither tractor had the "power beyond block" and they both operated excellent. I just plumbed the hoses into the RH side of the tractor similar to 3020/4020's with ind loader valve.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I purchased a joystick/valve from A&I last year for my 3020. good quality and a lot cheaper than Deere. Also was considering Shoup, but Deere owns most of A&I so i thought it would be the better choice.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a complete JD joystick set up I"d sell. Used, but very good. $600 plus shipping.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: joystick for loader in 4240 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here are some numbers my local John Deere dealer gave me several years back. You might want to verify it.

BW13995 Loader valve
AL82322 Joystick
BW13898 Mid Mount coupler
 
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