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WI Dave Regular
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:40 am Post subject: Primer dry-time |
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I'm using Case/IH primer and 2150 red. If I prime tonight after work, about 9:30, will I be able to paint 12 hours later, tomorrow morning? The label on the can is gone, otherwise I'd just look there. |
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Stephen Newell Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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I can't find out what the primer is. My instincts leads me to think it is an alkyd primer so I would not topcoat it in 12 hours. An alkyd primer needs 24 hours even in this heat. |
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kevinj54 Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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Read the can..........I think you have to re-coat within 3 hours or wait over 24 hours with the case paint. |
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WI Dave Regular
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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| kevinj54 wrote: | (quoted from post at 01:06:05 07/26/12)
Read the can..........I think you have to re-coat within 3 hours or wait over 24 hours with the case paint. |
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showcrop Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:27 am Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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| WI Dave wrote: | (quoted from post at 19:27:53 07/25/12) | kevinj54 wrote: | (quoted from post at 01:06:05 07/26/12)
Read the can..........I think you have to re-coat within 3 hours or wait over 24 hours with the case paint. |
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Happens to all of us, I gave advice for gas yesterday when the poster clearly said diesel |
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kevinj54 Long Time User
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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| WI Dave wrote: | (quoted from post at 23:27:53 07/25/12) | kevinj54 wrote: | (quoted from post at 01:06:05 07/26/12)
Read the can..........I think you have to re-coat within 3 hours or wait over 24 hours with the case paint. |
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OOPS just reread his post.
The dealer will probably read a label for ya!!!!
I do not have any left or I could read it for you. |
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gene nehring Regular
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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3hr window |
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WI Dave Regular
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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I primed it last night. Went to the dealer today before work and checked out a new can: topcoat within 3 hours or after 48 hours. |
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GordoSD Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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I'd go with after 48 hours. I used that primer one time about 10 years ago and it was still soft three weeks later. |
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Kurt_JDB Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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Is there an outside window for painting after the primer goes on, can you top coat it a week later?
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sflem849 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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| GordoSD wrote: | | (quoted from post at 20:42:43 07/26/12) I'd go with after 48 hours. I used that primer one time about 10 years ago and it was still soft three weeks later. |
I used it back in 2007 and was really happy with it. I primed on Friday night and painted on Monday because I did it at work. |
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Stephen Newell Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:08 am Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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I never could find out what type of primer this thread was about. When you use any new paint you should get a specification sheet from the paint supplier. It has the instructions that should be on the can. They don't put much instructions on paint anymore to make room for hazard warnings in three languages. I don't care for alkyd primers but with that type of primer you can paint over it in 24 hours or next year. There is no recoat window. I prefer to use epoxy primers. The recoat window varies from product to product but I think most you should topcoat within 72 hours. After 72 hours it hardens up so much you have to go over it and roughen it up with sandpaper to get good adhesion. Its a lot of work and Epoxy primers don't sand very well so it is usually easier just to put another coat of epoxy primer on if you exceed the recoat window. |
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Kurt_JDB Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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Thanks. Epoxy primer is what I plan to use. I would like to get a coat on there as I clean the parts up to prevent oxidation, with the plan to top coat later. If I can just shoot another coat of epoxy on there before the topcoat without having to sand/prep again, I'll be a happy guy.
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sflem849 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:51 am Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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| Stephen Newell wrote: | | (quoted from post at 04:08:47 08/06/12) I never could find out what type of primer this thread was about. When you use any new paint you should get a specification sheet from the paint supplier. It has the instructions that should be on the can. They don't put much instructions on paint anymore to make room for hazard warnings in three languages. I don't care for alkyd primers but with that type of primer you can paint over it in 24 hours or next year. There is no recoat window. I prefer to use epoxy primers. The recoat window varies from product to product but I think most you should topcoat within 72 hours. After 72 hours it hardens up so much you have to go over it and roughen it up with sandpaper to get good adhesion. Its a lot of work and Epoxy primers don't sand very well so it is usually easier just to put another coat of epoxy primer on if you exceed the recoat window. |
| WI Dave wrote: | | (quoted from post at 09:40:41 07/25/12) I'm using Case/IH primer and 2150 red. If I prime tonight after work, about 9:30, will I be able to paint 12 hours later, tomorrow morning? The label on the can is gone, otherwise I'd just look there. |
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sflem849 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:53 am Post subject: Re: Primer dry-time |
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| Kurt_JDB wrote: | (quoted from post at 04:49:59 08/06/12) Thanks. Epoxy primer is what I plan to use. I would like to get a coat on there as I clean the parts up to prevent oxidation, with the plan to top coat later. If I can just shoot another coat of epoxy on there before the topcoat without having to sand/prep again, I'll be a happy guy.
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Some epoxy primers will let you recoat with epoxy without scuffing. I was going to follow the same plan your intend on following. |
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