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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:24 am    Post subject: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a case 1370 serial # 874.... Bought this last year as she sat for better then 20 years. Ended up replacing all fluids and filters. After replacing both hydraulic pumps cause they were worn out, and having the relief valve rebuilt I hooks the disk up for a test run. Worked great for a few hours, and decided to hooked the 5-16's last night. First pass down no issues, but when I made the flip and dropped the plows the arms worked normal, but the rear outlet wouldn't. It had more then normal pressure on both up and down positions and after moving the handle back and forth several times, it worked. This issue repeated each end of the field for several rounds. Then I had to back up the tractor, and found that I have no reverse in any range now. The four speed seems to grind more then normal now also. I unhooked the plows and drove it home down the road with it shifting in forward gears without a issue. Does anyone have any ideas????
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All i can add is you are throttling down to back arent you?They will not go in reverse with throttle at full rpm.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, I idle it down.....
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

20 years with old fluid may have deteriated/weakened the clutch facings or brakes. Your recent use may have broken them loose. Linings may be plugging up your new filters and screens. Can you hear a humming sound under the belly.. like a pump starving for suction? No reverse and grindings, I would look for pressure/flow issues.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No abnormal noises that I'm aware of. However, with the luck I've had with this tractor, pads coming off wouldn't surprise me.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Also, both wheel brakes work as brand new.....
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi Dave, I like that tractor no. your using. Back to your problem, no rev. means you lost C4 in your PS and that also explains the grinding when trying to shift. There are numerous items both hyd. and mechanical that can cause this. If you know someone in your area that is familar with testing the PS I would suggest that. This could be a simple problem or internal one requiring a lot of labor. A complete test would tell you what needs to be done. Trying to explain all the possibilities on this site is difficult for me and could drive us both crazy. Rod.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave1370 may I ask what type of oil you used in the change.

i bought a cherry 1370 about 6 years ago changed oil to what i was using for the other tractors and within 50 hrs lost every fiber disc in the tractor.

The detergent in the oil eat the glue that held the fiber disks in place.

The oil I used is considered a premium oil and a lot of people use it locally for their deere's without trouble.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave if you have no luck in finding out what is wrong you can call me. Thats easier that trying to figure out a solution online. I'll email a ph. no. late afternoon calls are best. Rod.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave if you have no luck in finding out what is wrong you can call me. Thats easier that trying to figure out a solution online. I'll email a ph. no. late afternoon calls are best. Rod.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Rod1370, I just may take u up on the offer! I'm going to locate some gauges and try to do some pressure tests on the C4 port. From what I have read, the C4 acts somewhat like a tranny brake. When the C4 locks up, the four speed shifts without grinding and locks up the reverse correct? We only have a 970 case but haven't had issues with her yet, so I'm still learning this system. I would consider my self above the average farmer/mechanic so I'm looking forward to digging in this and fixing the problem. I'm addictive to the hp after just a short time in the field. Thanks again in advance for the advice. -Dave
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Brokengun, The oil I used was hydratrans that I purchased from Lyden Oil company which is a local oil company from my area ( N/E Ohio) I'd have to look for the spec sheet to answer anything about the oil tho.....
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Brokengun, when u replaced ur clutches, how long did it take? Did u do it, or send it out? What kind of money did it cost?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Huh?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: Case 1370 no reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave I did the work myself. I think it took me about 9-10 hrs to get the tractor apart.

I put in a master seal kit for ALL of the clutches.

The seal kit from case was around $230 the disc were aroung $100 each for the C4 clutch.

i also replaced the C1 clutch disc they were around $85 each.

The tractors cab does not come off but you will need a pair of stands to hold up the cab.

I made a trolley that fit under the rear end to roll it back.

I also used pipe stands to keep the tractor from tilting up by the engine

I have had nothing but trouble with my 1370 i have split the thing 4 times now.

It took me a while to realize the oil I used eat the glue our of the fiber disc's.

I talked to Agri-king about it and he helped me on a couple of issues.

The guys tops in my book!

He said he has seen my problem before. I guy Changes oil thinking everything is ok only to find out you just screwed-over your case

i dont know if the oil you use caused problems or not but if you replace the disc's the glue problem should go away.

The glue on the new disc's dont seem to have the same problem
 
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