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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

6 volt system-sparks when you connect/disconnect battery cables(key off)..Disconnect generator and no spark..How common is it for generators to be the drain problem? Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not sure if it has a V.R. or cut out but either one will cause that problem since a generator is working as it should will motor and that in it self will cause a draw on the battery so you have a sticking relay in the cut out of V.R.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Correctamundo. Apparently there is a 'solid state' replacement for the 9N cutout - check the 'Archives' HTH
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had the same problem with my six volt 9N single wire generator
the made in the land of the almost right cut out relay would arch when motor was running basically welding the contacts together and the springs were not strong enough to pull them apart.
This would put a back feed to the generator and drain the battery.
I purchased a full wave bridge rectifier 25 amp 50 volts as suggested by others on this site I plan to put it intomorrow
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I put a bridge rectifier on his(My Dad"s) 2N several yrs ago-you won"t be sorry u did that.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Has a bridge rectifier on it-I installed several yrs ago..any other suggestions? Tks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like that recifier is bad.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tom,
I have used what I guess to be a "bridge rectifier" on my R2 Cat. I am also using a "BR" on my Wincharger generator system because I could not find a good cut out. They were about $30.00. Both systems are 6 volts.
A few days ago a forum member was having a similar problem. Some forum members were saying that the diodes could either not carry current or fry and close the circuit. Hope this helps!
Mr. T. Minnesota
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks-hope not but would be my luck..
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

bat cables spark.. but armature on genny doesnt?

i'd look for another load...
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tom,
Are there any other circuits that could cause a slow draw? On the generator track again, does the generator charge? Did you try both sides of the bridge rectifier, maybe grounded inside. I would check the amount of current being drawn, amp meter between the battery post and battery cable. Hope this helps!!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have not touched the rectifier since I installed it several yrs ago..Plan to go to my Dad"s today-will ck amount of draw..Thanks Note: Reason I installed the Bridge several yrs ago is that he was having draining problems-found bad cutout--bought two and they were both bad.--installed the BR and it took care of it till now..
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not sure I understand----What I was trying to say was--battery cables don't spark while you disconnect or connect them while the one wire to the genny is disconnected.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: 9N draining battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tom I had this problem also with mine I found the stud for the single wire generator was grounding out.
Take part the generator and read continuity from the stud to the casing
I had to file off some of the solder on the back side also cleaned up the casing on the internal parts while I had it apart.
Check the field windings also they should read continuity through the windings also.
 
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