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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a JD 336 baler and never really noticed much before but this summer the bales were rough looking on the left side as you face the back of the baler.

I looked in the baler case and couldn't see what would trim the left side of a bale of hay. I thought maybe the knife on that side fell off. Then I looked in my manual and I don't see a knife on that side in any of the drawings.

So my question is how does the bale get cut on the left side? It seems like the bales came out of there in better shape in years past.

Thanks for the help in advance.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is a knife on the left hand side of the plunger as you look toward the back. You need to see if it is broken or has fallen off.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Part number E42088.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Your bale knife is getting dull or is out of adjustment.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Any chance you have a diagram that shows this part?

I took a better look and there is a part missing on the left side, but it looks nothing like the knife on the right. It is called the "adjustable plungerhead face" in my manual. I don't see where there is a sharp edge on it though.

Thanks for the help.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The system I am on seems to act up doing copy and paste. Go to John Deere Parts then click on "Search for parts" then input your model number.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

NY 986 wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:42:48 09/22/12) Part number E42088.


Looking from the front of baler towards the rear this is the stationery knife on the left E17777(parts key # 19). In the 2nd photo E42088 (parts key #25) is the PH knife.


 


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

In answer to your question, the hay does not get cut on the left, it gets "folded"! It only gets cut on the right side! Ragged on the right would indicate dull knife/shear plate, or knife/shear plate out of adjustment. Ragged on the left side would indicate improper adjustment of feeder fork, or very inconsistent windrows.
JMHO, HTH, Dave
PS: Machine's left and right are the same as yours when you are facing the direction of travel.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote


"on the left side as you face the back of the baler" doesn't tell weather you are facing the back from in front of or behind it. But from your description I'm with Dave that you need to adjust your feeder forks, probably to push it a little further.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I already tried adjusting my forks weeks ago. Did not make a difference. I'm missing a piece on the left side of the plunger face.

Thanks for the response.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the response. This is very helpful. I looked at it again today and I have a gap of 1 to 1.5 inches on the left side of the plunger face. From what I read in my manual, the gap is supposed to be in the range of one sixteenth to three sixteenths. I am missing either #1 or #3 in your diagram labeled EP7919.

In my manual the piece looks more like #3. Is that diagram sort of a general one, covering many balers?

Thanks for the help; and would you have any idea where I can get the parts I need?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For clarification purposes when you state LH side are you facing front or rear of the baler??? The parts schematics I posted came directly out of the 336 parts catalog but it applies to several JD sq baler models.

EP7919 isn't a good part number. If you're referring to parts key #3 in the 2nd it is E45679 which keeps hay from getting between PH and bale case. Parts key #1(E49409) in 2nd photo is whats know as a PH extension that's intended to push spongy type hay farther to the rear away from needles to aid in completing the tying cycle. Parts key #3 in 1st photo is a washer.

If part # E45679 is what you need it's available from a JD dealer.
E45679 STRAP, FACE,ADJUSTABLE ADD 36.13 USD
 


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks again.

EP7919 was the label on the diagram on the lower left; I was just trying to make sure you knew I was referring to the lower diagram.

Now it all makes sense. When I got on the JD Parts website they have a quantity of 4 for the extensions, and now I see that in my manual. It is listed as optional equipment for very dry hay.

Anyway, my problem is that part number E45679 fell off somewhere at sometime; I have a huge gap on that side instead of something around an eighth of an inch or so that I should have.

Do you know where I can get E45679 nice and cheap?

Thanks again for the help.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't know what happened but for some reason I only saw the middle of your response the first time I looked.

So for the clarification question, I am talking about the left side of the baler as you stand behind the baler.

Everything on the other side is fine; I have the moving knife on the plungerhead and the stationary knife all where they are supposed to be.

And now I see your response on where to get the part, so thank you for that.

I would sure like to know where that part went to. I'll have to go around and check for loose bolts more often.

Thanks again.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: JD 336 Ragged bales Reply to specific post Reply with quote

UP Oliver wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:21:39 09/23/12) I looked at it again today and I have a gap of 1 to 1.5 inches on the left side of the plunger face. From what I read in my manual, the gap is supposed to be in the range of one sixteenth to three sixteenths. I am missing either #1 or #3 in your diagram labeled EP7919.


Now that it's been established which end of the baler your referring I will reply to this stated. Yes the part # E45679 will help but I never measured the distance between it and the bale case just so it's close but doesn't scrape. Yes there are supposed to be 4 PH extensions.
 


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