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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anyone know the oil capacity of a '72 Ford 3000 with a gas engine? The operators manual says 8 qts. but when I put that much in it shows way over full on the dipstick.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well did you start it??? The oil filter holds about 1 qt so till you start it up yep you get and over full reading. Just double checked the FO-31 manual just to be sure and it does say 8 also so that is not factoring in the filter
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks old. Yes, I pulled the coil wire and turned it over to fill the oil filter, it has a spin-on so it holds less than a quart and that brought it down to about an inch and a half over the full line. Just worried about the end of the rods foaming up the oil.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm not up on the 3000's but I'd be a might worried about an inch and a half over full.
Is this a new to you tractor? Might have the wrong dipstick in it?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

PaulKin IL wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:58:52 09/22/12) Anyone know the oil capacity of a '72 Ford 3000 with a gas engine? The operators manual says 8 qts. but when I put that much in it shows way over full on the dipstick.


That's odd, because my owner's manual says 7 quarts with a filter change and 6 quarts without a filter change for all '65-'75 3 cylinder ag models, regardless of gas or diesel. It specifically lists the 2000, 2110, 3000, 4000, 4000SU and 4110, and the oil capacity is the same for all of them.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mine says 7 quarts also but never have gotten it to take that much. I drain, change the filter, fill 6, then start it, then top it off, usually takes a bit more than a pint to hit the full mark. I hold onto the rest, check it often, but the darn thing never seems to need it. always on full. Was rebuilt by the dealer in 2004.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can check the length and markings of your dipstick against this photo.
I would not run it that over full.


 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The manual for my 3000 clearly states that the oil capacity is 8 qt with filter and 6 without under the specification sheet. However, this will overfill it by approximately one quart. The number on the back of the manual is SE 3225 86850 and I am pretty sure is was the one that came with the tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you all for responding. Great idea posting the picture of the dipstick with the ruler UltraDog, mine does not look like that. It has 2 full marks one on each side of "FULL" so it looks like someone changed the dipstick in the last 40 years.

I'm sure part of the confusion on the capacity is the fact that they changed from the old cartridge type filter that took 2 quarts to fill to the spin-on filters. Also found it interesting that Fram's web site showed a PH16 filter for the gas engine and a PH8A for the diesel.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Paul, I agree about the photo, since I am the nutter who broke the one P.O. had soldered together and used. Had to replace at that point, but was questioning proper level. Figured if on there good, then is OK.

Am using a ph8a on my gasser. Seems like last one and current are doin OK by the condition of oil. It was also what P.O. had on there when I took it off.

P.s. Thx for the pic UD
 


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

PaulKin IL wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:58:52 09/22/12) Anyone know the oil capacity of a '72 Ford 3000 with a gas engine? The operators manual says 8 qts. but when I put that much in it shows way over full on the dipstick.


Check the condition of the oil pan. If it's been dented in, the shape may only hold 6 quarts rather then 8.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just to add to the confusion... some factory dipsticks have the two marks you refer to - my 7000 and 7600 both do. As you have a spin-on filter, it should take 7 quarts.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As long as it's in the 6-9 qt range and the stick shows full I wouldn't get too twisted about it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Measure it soon after you shut the engine down. The oil filter drains back into the crank case and upon checking cold, like first thing in the morning before you crank, it will read over full. BTDT

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 Question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Another thought: I had 2 ea 3000's once. One had a cartridge which was very large and the other a spin on that used a Motorcraft FL-1A. The volume of the spin on was much smaller than the cartridge type. I'm assuming that the manual was written for the early (mine was '65, cartridge a '66) model 3000. If you have the spin on, it could read 1 qt over full anyway.

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