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Bob Purinton
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:13 am    Post subject: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

While letting my engine warm up to see if the new radiator is gonna work out; I moved the lever that raises the lift arms in back. Nothing, not even a quiver. I just changed the tranny and differential fluids. Does something need bled or did I find a bad pump?
For those not familiar with my particular tractor; it's sat in indoor storage for almost the last 30 years. I've been lucky so far; but, was wondering when my luck would run out.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

what tractor is it?

cat d8?

space shuttle?


if a N style machine.. is pto running?

if an 8n, is long bar from the top moving the control valve in and out onthe pump?


if a 9n/2n, is the fork attached?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

1948 8N, 8N 131343, front mount distributor, red, gray, and rust in color, left front tire slightly low on air (and tread). Smile
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

check rod then to see if it moves with 3pt comtrol and actuates valve in pump

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You did remember the have the PTO spinning didn't you. Seen that happen to more then one guy even though they had the tractor for years
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm gonna have to plead the 5th here. I've never run one of these before and I'm learning as I go along. Most of what I know; i got off the forums here. As well as learning the hard way.
So, I got to move the lever on the left side of the tranny where the round plate is and then try to raise and lower the lever to see if the lift arms go up and down?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you are getting confused.

1, the pto lever must be engaged, and the pto spinning for the hyds to work.

the pto lever is on the left side aft of your foot.

once that is going.. if no 3pt lift.. pull the dipstick inspection cover and make sure the rod hanging down from the top cover tot he pump is moving the control in and out all the way as you move the 3pt handle.

also ensure the small 3" draft control lever is pointing up.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Good question!!

When I have problems with the pto on MY space shuttle I always post an the 2N, 9N & 8N board.

Brad
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

with lack of info.. it does beg the question...
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Went out this evening and started my 8N up. pushed in the clutch and moved the lever on the left side inspection plate towards the rear. Let out the clutch and moved the hydraulic touch control leverup slowly to the top and, still, nothing. Not even a quiver or change in noise.
The little three inch position control lever was in the vertical position.
Tried to put tractor in gear and see what would happen. It moved (a first). I never tried to move it before.
Lift arms would raise and lower if I lifted them but would do nothing through the hydraulic system.
i'll check the internals tomorrow. Daylight is going away.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is your PTO spinning when you let the clutch out?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My PTO shaft has the cover in place. I'll mess with this today and see if I can get it off. PTO did rake momentarily when I tried to engage it before the clutch was all the way down.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the answers. I'll check all this this evening and in the morning. I'll post what I learn.
I suspect stuck stuff as this tractor has set for almost thirty years.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Trouble on the back end now. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bob Purinton wrote:
(quoted from post at 04:47:00 09/26/12) Thanks for the answers. I'll check all this this evening and in the morning. I'll post what I learn.
I suspect stuck stuff as this tractor has set for almost thirty years.
Try Prep-H.....always helps my back end problems!
 
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