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Power to pull a 32' cultivator
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:02 am    Post subject: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How much power would it take to pull an AC 32' spring tooth cultivator, 3 rows of spring teeth and 4 rows of spring tines. I have 56 hp, is that enough?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Assuming you are serious, a 32 foot field cultivator would take about 200 hp 'here'.

You might be able to pull it if you don't put it in the dirt?

I pulled a 16 foot field cultivator with 85 hp, as the tractor got old that got to be a lot. I pulled a 22 and now 24 foot field cultivator with 145hp, and that's about all it wants for traction esp with duals.


Sometimes field cultivators, harrows, and chisel plows are called differently in different regions of the country, so if I'm miss-speaking on your implement then never mind?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks, I suspected it might be way too big.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

paul's got it; bought a 25 or 26 ft Glencoe, back in the dark ages........intending to pull it with a 4620 or 1066 (both 135 pto hp); neither would pull it the way it needed to be pulled 'til I removed a few shanks. When I got a 180 hp tractor, I was able to put the shanks back on........
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Down the road,maybe.you were kidding,right?I seriously doubt that even my 1256 would handle that.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I really didn't know, I just suspected it was too much, I've never pulled anything that big before. Now I feel like dummy, oh well, thanks for setting me right.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How deep and how fast do you want to pull it?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I pull a 24 foot Wilrich field cultivator with a 4450 MFWD, rated 145, cranks 190. Half of that AC would be too big for your tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Provided you don"t lower it into the ground, you"ll be OK.

Neighbor with 210hp mfwd tractor has a 28"er that gives it a workout. My 140hp 2wd handles 20" but won"t exactly take off running with it.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats OK,we all ask a stupid once in a while....Thats how we learn. Smile Steve
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm kind of with you, I have never seen what is called a field cultivator work, they don't seem to exist around here. We always used a spring tooth harrow for smoothing in the field before seeding when I was a kid, and that thing was about 20' wide and Gramp pulled it with his 641 Ford, so if that was 32' wide I could see a 56 horse tractor handling it no problem. Don't feel bad about asking a question, there are a lot of people here with knowledge that I will never have. You can't get information without asking questions.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Only bad questions are the unasked one's, you did good asking., no dummy. :)

Keep asking questions, despite our rather overwhelming chorus here, we can be nice at times too. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would want 200 HP.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A field cultivator 'here' works about as hard as a disk, and does the same job. In our clay, a disk is a bad thing, it packs the wet ground like a sheepsfoot packer, we all parked our disks in the 1970's and got field cultivators. They have meduim strength shanks, either spring loaded or S shaped springy type, with duck foot cultivator shovels of 5-9 inches on them (can have narrow 2 inch spike shovels, but rare).

A harrow is a light drag, some are wire spring type like jumbo siderake teeth, some are spike like the typical old horse drag/harrow. (Most field cultivators and some disks 'here' have a couple rows of 'harrow' teeth on the rear of them to level off the ground nicely.)

A chisel plow has very strong shanks that go into the ground as deep as a plow, and pull as hard as one, some are 2 inch wide bottoms, some are 3 or 4 inch twisted shovels. (Some chisel plows have a row or 2 of field cultivator shanks on the rear to level off the rough ground.)

I've seen imlements that are confusing between these 3, and hard for me to put in one or another classification as they seem to cross over.

In any case, the 20 foot harrow I have is a good match for a 45 hp tractor, the 25 foot one I have it often too big a load for a 45 hp tractor, so it would be hard, in my soils, to pull anything 32 feet wide with 60 hp, even a light harrow.

But it depends on soils, conditions, and what the implement actually is, and if it has a few harrow rows on the back of it.

In spring I can't hadly pull the 20 foot disk (the few times I use a disk any more) in fresh dirt. But in fall if I want to disk down some cornstalks in the firm dirt, the smaller tractor hardly knows the disk is back there.

Then the neighbors have come with a new type of disk, they have 400 hp pulling their 24 foot disk - it's a massive, huge bladed thing that works the soil deeper than a plow.

It's so hard to judge an implement with just a name to it, never sure exactly what it is we are talking about.

So this was a good thread, good question. Maybe the answers weren't so good. :)

--->Paul
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Power to pull a 32' cultivator Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You might be able to "scratch" the ground if it is already tilled, otherwise not near enough power. As already stated, at least around 200 hp and more if wanting to go over 5 mph in untilled ground.
 
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