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JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load

 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am a new owner of a 197? JD 301AG. It is the 8 speed transmission with park(no reverser). I found an issue with the PTO. It engages and spins with no load on it, but if I hook up my 6ft finish mower it won't spin. Can anyone point me in the right direction. I've only had 50s fergusons previously. It also has a pull knob between the shifters. What is the function of that?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Remove the sheet metal cover that gear shift levers protrude through and there should be a port to test pto clutch. PSI when engaged should be 165 psi. If pressure is low you could possibly have a cracked or leaking supply tube or leaking clutch seal. Don't continue trying to operate it until problem is corrected.
 


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A dire need of an operator's manual. There are numerous functions and service items that are not obvious. A few lines on the Internet does not compare to a dozens and dozens of illustrations, specs and service items in the real JD OM. Don't waste your time and $ on an IT manual either.
The nice folks at 1-800-522-7448 will assist you.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote


In this instance the operators manual would only help to wedge the garage door open but not list diagnoses or repair.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The OM to ID the controls such as the mystery lever between
the shifters.
It goes without saying that a service manual for diagnosis
assistance is required.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So it sounds like the PTO uses hydraulics and isn't a 2 stage clutch type?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Yes if there's a control handle between the 2 gear shift levers then your tractor has a hyd operated pto.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does engaging the PTO require shifting the PTO lever on the left side in gear and pulling up the center knob between the shifters? If so I haven't tried that yet.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

win2ktek wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:19:44 09/30/12) Does engaging the PTO require shifting the PTO lever on the left side in gear and pulling up the center knob between the shifters? If so I haven't tried that yet.


Yes one must move the lever by left heel when sitting in seat for hyd pto to operate when pto clutch is engaged.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you for the assistance. Only having old fergusons before I didn't know you have to engage the PTO lever on the left side and pull the center knob up. The PTO now spins the mower. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: JD 301AG PTO won't spin under load Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Congratulations.
 
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