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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I looked at an 820 s/n 2xx that had a cast bottom below the grill screen. There is 2 forward facing 4 x 4 inch flat faces facing forward on each corner. iIs this a special model, after market part for a bumper, or ??? there wasn't an 'I' with the s/n Thank you RT
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

830I front casting? bill
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's an industrial front end. Look at your axle and see if it's flat across the bottom as well. If it is you have the industrial pan and axle assembly.

It'll look like this...

 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

if the front end support you describe looks like Rwolfejr's tractor, you have an industrial front end on your 820. Really not common at all to see it on an 820. May have been retrofit on there, or possibly factory.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That"s it. I found a web site for 830 industrial with photos that also said that some 820"s had extra renforsment added to the drawbar assembly for scraper applications. The 820 in question has a much larger frame suporting the drawbar. Obtaining this one looks like it will take time, wish me luck. RT
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That"s it. I found a web site for 830 industrial with photos that also said that some 820"s had extra renforsment added to the drawbar assembly for scraper applications. The 820 in question has a much larger frame suporting the drawbar. Obtaining this one looks like it will take time, wish me luck. RT
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'd bet the drawbar looks like this?

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Sounds like you found an interesting 820. If you get it, I'd love to see pictures! I'm the WeirdDeere.com guy

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wierddeere, The hitch looks like the one in your picture. Can the wheels be moved to the narrow setting, as it is now the tractor is over width for transporting. RT
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It MIGHT be possible, depending on what rims and center hubs are on the tractor. Some hubs will allow it, others won't.

It won't be an easy job, you have to take the rims off and flip them around. If those tires are loaded, it could be a killer.

There are two hub styles. The r1600R is narrower, and you probably don't have the room to flip the rims around without hitting the fenders. My 80 won't. IF it has 16 inch wide rims you can flip it, but I think most tractors had 20 inchers. Look at the center of the hub, note how the axle retainer sticks out.

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The R2522R hub is a little wider, and there should be enough room to flip the rims to narrow. Look at the center of the hub, note how the axle retainer is recessed slightly (ignoring the weights, couldn't find one without!)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Weirddeere, The rims on the 820 have an inner and outer ridge for mounting wihich would narrow the width up i'm gussing about 5" per side. They might be later will fit rims. It looks like the extra drawbar brackets you pictured could be removed which would surley solve any clearance problem. Thank You RT
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Before you go to all the trouble you should look at your local laws regarding hauling farm equipment. Most likely you will be legal hauling it just the way it is. In many states moving anything farm related down a road is covered under a section called "implements of husbandry" and will usually allow for overwidth.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 820 identity question Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Russ,
If the rims on this 820 have two ribs on them, then they must be the 34" hubs (or they're not the correct rims). For the 26" hubs, the rims only have one rib, and the rim and tire assembly get turned around to have the dish "in" or "out". In fact, I think the 34" rims were the same way. I'd have to look when I get home tomorrow. I had an 820 with 26" hubs and I sold the R1600R hubs and put on the R2522R hubs so I could use 20" rims for my new 23.1x26 tires and dish them in. Saved a lot of shed space. For the 830, Dad said no 26" tires.

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