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Charlie175 Regular
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: Narrow B |
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This is a followup to my post about a Narrow C front on a B.
I was able to get a early C front end, C Cowl, drag link, and steering arm.
The front bolted on no problem. The drag link balls were shot so I am looking for a replacement, but I used what I had for now. The steering arm I had to modify by taking the B arm and cutting the shaft off and welding the C arm to it as the C steering shaft is larger than the B.
Works good so far, the turn radius is sharp which will be a boon when using the sickle. The short front steering arm makes the turning to fast I think, maybe this why Allis changes to a longer one.
As a bonus when hooking up the belly sickle it is so much easier now than before.
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steve(ill) Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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Looks great Charlie.. instead of making the front arm longer, you could cut 3 inches or so out of the rear arm and make it shorter.. That would work also. |
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old Tractor Guru
Joined: 12 Mar 2000 Posts: 50439 Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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Do you have the manual for that sickle mower??? If you do not send me an e-mail and I can then in turn send you a copy of it that I have in this computer so you will then have it. The manual even shows you how to drive over it and hook it up real easy |
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Tracy Brown Regular
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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I have a factory sickle mower on a C that I'm parting if anyone wants to fix a setup like this. |
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chalmersbob(Pa) Regular
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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I'm glad to see that you have wheel weights on the rear as you now have a very unstable tractor that could turn over easily. Bob |
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Charlie175 Regular
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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I do have the original manual for the tractor and mower. With the wide front you had to be just right in order to clear the frame and line things up. With the Narrow front you can easily swing in.
I agree the tractor is not as stable but for my purposes is satisfactory. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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I sort of did what you did to a Farmall A but did so because it had played catch with a tree and lost big time so I took the trike front of a B and put it on the A and now have a BA and did so because of the sickle mower I have for the A. On the narrow side I put a set of duals on it to make it a tad bit safer |
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Dick L Tractor Guru
Joined: 01 Sep 1999 Posts: 8625 Location: Edon Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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Not true at all Bob. I do not know where this idea came from. I have read this several times over the years. I mow steep banks with my B and have never felt it tip. The most that has happened is the rear wants to slide down the bank. It most likely comes from the same thought that the B with a wide front is more stable which is false.
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Dick L Tractor Guru
Joined: 01 Sep 1999 Posts: 8625 Location: Edon Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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Looks close to mine. This picture is from 2001.
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Charlie175 Regular
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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Dick I think the axis of roll is the same for both until you hit the axle stops on the wide front, once this happens the axis moves out to the wheel since that would become the new leverage point. If it got to that point I think it would still roll over anyway due to the angle. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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What year is the Oliver 77 almost strange to see full sheet metal on one any more. I have a 1950 Oliver 77 with full sheet metal but it took me years to find a set of it for what I was willing to spend |
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Dick L Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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That be a 1951. I have the side panels for all of my fleatline Olivers except one. They were leaning just inside of one of my shed doors at the farm and then they were not. I almost thought I had bought a set for my 70 but they turned from aluminum to gold at the last few seconds on ebay . |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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I was always told that if you have the side panels you needed to keep them under lock and key or some one else would have them. If that happens where I live the guy would have to have a lot of balls since my drive way is a mile long and I collect fire arms |
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Dick L Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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You do something to get one rear wheel to that point you are on your way over. |
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DiyDave Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Narrow B |
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Nice lookin tractor. A narrow B beats a wide A, most any day! |
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