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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've been asking around to see what a clutch job, trans seal would run. I hear a spread of 5oo (350 labor, 200 parts) miles way so towing would be addl 200 probably to near 4K from a shop right up the street. Any opinions what reasonable is? Never changed a clutch before but looks like I might learn.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

" Never changed a clutch before but looks like I might learn."

Believe me, it's not that hard.

Split the tractor.

Pull the old clutch & p/p; send them to be rebuilt.

Replace the t/o bearing, pilot bearing & transmission seal while you're in there.

Install the new clutch.

Put it back together.

You can buy any tools you might need (like a cherry picker) & still come out ahead cost wise.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The unknown is always a little intimidating. You can do it with a couple of floor jacks and basic tools. A concrete floor helps also. I would start by removing the hood. Place a jack under the engine and one under the trans. Undo the wiring and the choke rod and the oil line and the throttle linkage. Remove the drag links from the steering arms and the radius rods from the transmission. Put some wooden wedges between the axle and the center section so that the engine cannot tip when you roll it forward. There are about 10 or so bolts that connect the engine to the bell housing. Remove them and roll the front half of the tractor forward. Now you have access to the clutch. While in there also replace the input trans seal. Good luck and post back with questions.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Johns.signsrcn.com wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:36:32 10/02/12) I've been asking around to see what a clutch job, trans seal would run. I hear a spread of 5oo (350 labor, 200 parts) miles way so towing would be addl 200 probably to near 4K from a shop right up the street. Any opinions what reasonable is? Never changed a clutch before but looks like I might learn.
Thanks in advance,
John


A complete clutch kit (new cover, disc, and both bearings) is $120 retail. Labor is 4-6 hours for someone with a good surface to work on and the right tools. Figuring a $75/hr shop rate and 50% markup on parts you are looking at $450 - $550 at a shop.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You guys make it sound pretty simple actually. Only thing I can think of from the above lists would be a 2nd jack & some wedges needed. Other tools I have. Driveway is asphalt, does much oil drop out during the split? or should the trans to rear be drained also? Never seen the inside of one of these.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Johns.signsrcn.com wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:21:11 10/02/12) You guys make it sound pretty simple actually. Only thing I can think of from the above lists would be a 2nd jack & some wedges needed. Other tools I have. Driveway is asphalt, does much oil drop out during the split? or should the trans to rear be drained also? Never seen the inside of one of these.


You only need one jack - I prefer to block the front up and roll the rear half back using the jack. No oil inside the bell housing and no need to drain anything.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I forgot to mention the sherman hi lo. Will that have to come out also to do the trans seal?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

To bad your not close to me. Figure $150 in parts and 3-4 hours labor so all in all $500 tops to do the job including parts
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

$500 is realistic.
A guy should easily do the job in a day.
More like half a day if you are competent wrench.
$200 for parts also adds a little padding to the job.
If you are in or near the Twin Cities I would do it for that. Plus pickup and delivery or you deliver. I'll crowd you for a little more and sell you for a front seal in the tranny/Sherman too.
Hokie is correct.
Block the front half of the tractor and roll the rear half away. Easier.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Front sherman seal..didnt know about that one. Does the sherman have to come out to put the tranny seal in? Yea between those 2 seals and when I get to the pto bearing & seal next spring, Things should be looking pretty good!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote


What is the shape of the rest of the tractor ?

Is the trans leaking or is it motor oil on the clutch ?

I love these little N's but if you have to pay someone to work on them you really need something else .

That being said , there is not really much that a fair shade tree mechanic would have trouble with . The unknown may seem intimidating but the guys here can explain and show pictures / diagrams / videos to explain everything in a way that it is easy to understand .
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote


before I do another split I am going to make the bracket that Hobo showed us. It enables you to bolt a trailer jack with wheel onto the side of your transmission so that you can safely and easily and cheaply roll it back.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

John Take a look at this, might help. joe
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

THAT was interesting! and can help a novice like myself feel better about diving in. I didn't see all the pics. I hope they show the hydraulics, rear and pto. Someone had a lot of spare time! Thanks Joe.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: Reasonable labor parts opinion please Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Pretty nifty! with the height adjustment and all that. What thickness will you use for the trans mount?
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