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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:38 am    Post subject: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey folks,
Anyone use something like this??




I've got one in fine shape but no manual. Want to use it this spring to fertilize the pastures but don't know how far to open the ports. First time fertilizing and don't wanna over/under do it. Any pointers would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Set it as low a rate as the material will flow through and fill to a marked level and run over a known area and refill and weigh how much it took to do that area. If it only put on 1/4th of what you want repeat and weigh and then do the math. No 2 times will the fertilizer flow exactly the same. Just keep gradually increasing to get where you want and recording what each setting did and where and then after you are completely done with all patches go back over the ones that were light using the figures that you come up with for all settings to get the correct one for to increase the rate put on all of them. You might want to figure the area in say one round at a time in doing the calculations
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Worksaver has an online manual for theirs, while the controls might be slightly different, downloading that manual might give you a good reference point.

http://www.worksaver.com/product/manuals.html#seeder

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


OK, thanks guys... Even the manual paul linked says more or less trial and error so I won't feel lioke an idiot Rolling Eyes

Worse case, how much of an "error" would it take to over fertilize????

Or would I just get greener/better grass???
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

that would technically depend entirely on the fertilizer of course, but you really have to dump on the fertilizer to actually kill something in most cases. Over fertilizing is not so much the chance of setting your crop back, but the fact that your litterally throwing dollar bills away. It would be rare indeed if even your front yard needs exactly the same fertilizer accross the whole area,so some of it will be over or under fertilized anyway. Too much accross the whole area is simply wasting money because a lot of your nitrogen will be lost. In fact, and this is up for debate,some studies have proven that 99% of the fertilizer folks use is simply wasted with no benifit whatsoever. take for instance that spreader, i assume your using premixed pelletized fertilizer.good stuff if used correctly,but are you just going to spread it on top? if so most of your nitrogen is going right into the atmosphere,or is running off into a stream. a sprayer and liquid fertilizer,would be a better choice in this case. Its cheaper and will stay in your yard,and is in a form plants can use now. Not trying to tell you how to run your buisness here,i use one of those spreaders myself. but only when i can work or water in fertilizer. if you do use this,water it in good when your done spreading.youll still lose some but less than you would if it just laid on surface. many many folks,will tell you it simply doesnt pay to fertilize pastures of native grass and things. thats simply not true.how you fertilize is just as important or more so than what you fertilize with.like i say using one of these improperly is just like throwing money in the wind. if your fertilizing pastures with one of these,do it immediatly before or better yet DURING a light rain (The cover is a VERY important piece of this equipment).grass cant use fertilizer laying on top the ground,no plant can. the longer it lays on top of the ground the more you lose.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That looks a lot like a Baltic spreader a friend of mine has. Central Tractor Farm & Family stores used to sell them. He may still have a readable settings chart. I'll check.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tim(nj) wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:34:24 10/03/12) That looks a lot like a Baltic spreader a friend of mine has. Central Tractor Farm & Family stores used to sell them. He may still have a readable settings chart. I'll check.


Thanks, but it's gonna be someone else' problem.. I'm getting one to pull behind the quad.... The best solution for my situation.

Thanks,

Dave
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you have some special situation that you cant get a tractor into? buy one of those little atv spreaders and your just trading one problem for another bigger one. ive used both, the one you have is five times the machine any of the others are,regardless of what folks here say. when your done spreading your fertilizer,take the time to wash it good,then soak it down with diesel.store it right and it will outlast you.the cheap plastic ones you buy for a atv has all the same problems this one does,plus the impellers crack in the sun if you leave them out,the motors sieze up, and a dozen more problems you wont have with this one.they are quite simply toys for wannabe farmers.ive got both types,plus a horse drawn one my grandad used that still works fine,and one built in the late forties that i still use every year.the atv one is without a doubt the bigger pos.it wont spread better,it wont work better,your fooling yourself if you believe it will.without proper care none of them will work period. but thats my opinion of course,like i say i keep using my old ones while i know other guys who buy another one each year..
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Majority of my pastures are orchards and the tractor won't go between the trees without tearing up the cab top. I'll chill out on getting rid of it just yet and maybe borrow a neighbors tractor without a top/cab.....
I have a couple of older steel ones for pulling behind a small tractor on watch right now to see what happens...
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ive pulled my old horse drawn one many a mile with a pickup,and i think you could pull one easy enough with a atv if it has an adjustable tongue for hieght. you want it to be setting pretty level.if you buy a old ground driven one off the net,see if you see a series of holes right at the front of the bin,where you can pull a pin or bolt and raise or lower hitch hieght. if so it pobably would go low enough to hitch to your atv.they were made that way so you could pull them behind a disc,harrow or whatever and still sit level.another thing that will help,see if it has a mixer/stirring bar inside the bin.that helps break up clumps of fertilizer and helps it to feed more evenly. if your sowing grass seed, mix it in well with play sand, helps stop it from bridging off,and it gives more weight so it throws the seed better. if your going to buy a atv one ,save your money and just go to lowes and buy one there made to pull in your yard.same exact machine at about 1/3 the price, and it will do just as well. go to a few auctions and you can buy them for 20-30 bucks all day around here.for five bucks buy a used one you push, take a conduit bender to the handle and hook it to your atv ,again the same machine.plastic gears ,gearboxes,impellers nothing for any real work.most get used once and are thrown away.wait till large trash pickup day in your area and you can probably pickup five or six.of course it might not say realtree on it, which automaticaly makes it totally unusable for food plots.seed probably wouldnt even sprout if you sowed it with one not painted hunter green or camo!LOL
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


OK... I'll watch.... The two I had on ebay are about shot (after looking at the pics closer. Started out good but were used for salt and rusted real good... Found one for vineyards but it's PTO driven and no help. I have a few months. Worst case, I'll use what I have for the open areas and my push spreader for the trees....
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So something like this is what you look for?
agrex italy

 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 3PH broadcast spreader??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tim(nj) wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:31:21 10/05/12) So something like this is what you look for?
agrex italy


yep.... Just don't want to spend that much on it (ones like it I see here are between 5 and 6 hundred bucks)..... It just may happen tho because it would pay for itself in time saved and just by lasting longer.....
 
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