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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

46 2N Changed oil, used 40W,now have only 20lb @ WOT & about 5lb @ 1/2 throttle & 0 @ idle. Once it reaches operating temp these #'s drop. The #'s were a little better before change. I know the oil pump was rebuilt, new sleeves, pistons & rings & block sealer was done by Daddy in '84 & I'm sure the tractor was used only sporadically for maybe 10 yrs & then only blade work or a dirt scoop. I don't know if any more was done in the engine at that time. I have not replaced the OP gauge yet as it seems to be working. I reprimed the oil pump, but no change. The tractor will only be lightly used because we have a 4000SU I use for heavy work. Should I use some of the Lucas or STP products, a heavier wt oil or what ? Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tom Beddard ENC wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:21:05 10/03/12) 46 2N Changed oil, used 40W,now have only 20lb @ WOT & about 5lb @ 1/2 throttle & 0 @ idle. Once it reaches operating temp these #'s drop. The #'s were a little better before change. I know the oil pump was rebuilt, new sleeves, pistons & rings & block sealer was done by Daddy in '84 & I'm sure the tractor was used only sporadically for maybe 10 yrs & then only blade work or a dirt scoop. I don't know if any more was done in the engine at that time. I have not replaced the OP gauge yet as it seems to be working. I reprimed the oil pump, but no change. The tractor will only be lightly used because we have a 4000SU I use for heavy work. Should I use some of the Lucas or STP products, a heavier wt oil or what ? Thanks


If you actually have ZERO oil pressure at hot idle the engine is on it''s last legs. Check the gauge to make sure your pressure readings are accurate. An oil additive or change in grade will not fix the problem.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not what I wanted to hear but what I expected to hear. Should I park it now or run it til it makes no OP at any RPM?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just to be sure I'll get a new OP gauge tomorrow. Thanks TOH
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Change the oil gauge first. I would not run it until it reads 0 psi. That could cost you more money to fix it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Overhauled in '84 and used the way you say it has, it should be barely broken in. I'd check the oil pressure regulator spring.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If the gauge and oil pressure relief vlave and spring check as OK, I would check the oil pump suction line braze/solder joint for a possible air in-leakage problem.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Fritz Maurer wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:13:56 10/03/12) Overhauled in '84 and used the way you say it has, it should be barely broken in. I'd check the oil pressure regulator spring.


He has 20 PSI cold so the cracking pressure on the relief valve is 20 PSI or higher. Not the problem.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You said you changed oil and after that, oil pressure was as stated. There is a possibility that when replacing the oil pan drain plug the plug could have made contact with the pick up tube and as you tighten it pushes the tube up. The slighest movement on the tube will break the seal at the pump and start drawing air and thus loss of pressure. Drain the oil and see if you can move the tube at all. If you can, thats your problem.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil pressure 46 2N Reply to specific post Reply with quote

a couple of times ive changed oil and started having these problems,once on a old pickup and once on a 8n. how much better was the oil pressure with the oil you were using? if it were just two or three lbs, i would just suspect your guage is reading different from the heavier oil.rebuilt almost thirty years ago it could be getting weak though.another thing i suppose it could be if its just a few lbs is maybe a more restrictive oil filter(?)
 
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