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Larharm Regular
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: 631 no spark |
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no spark have replaced points and set at 0.25
replaced the condenser. hot wired the switch nothing helps. check volt on wire to coil nothing
traced the wire from coil back and it goes to the solenoid then up to junction box then to switch.
should the wire go directly from coil to switch? |
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old Tractor Guru
Joined: 12 Mar 2000 Posts: 50425 Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:38 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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6 or 12 volts?? How it is wired can be different on them. I make my own wiring set ups and I always hook the coil wire to the ignition switch the side that if hot when turned on |
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Larharm Regular
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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it is 6v and like i mentioned the wire from the coil goes to the solenoid looks like it was wired this way original . would it word to cut the wire and go directly to the switch? |
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Larharm Regular
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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i hope this helps it is a four post solenoid 2big and 2small. starter works ok |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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That if it has the safety switch is not the correct solenoid but yes I have one on my 841 but it does not have a working safety switch on it |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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It should go to the switch but the solenoid you have is not correct for that tractor from what I understand |
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Larharm Regular
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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if it goes to the switch would it need to be cut down 6v to 3v to protect the coil |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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No a 631 has the round can coil and it works on 6 volts. Now if you had a front mount type distributor like on the N series ford yes you would need that but the 601 series has the side mount distributor so no ballast resister needed unless you switch it to 12 volts |
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Sean in PA Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:30 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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| Larharm wrote: | (quoted from post at 12:12:49 10/06/12) no spark have replaced points and set at 0.25 replaced the condenser. hot wired the switch nothing helps. check volt on wire to coil nothing
traced the wire from coil back and it goes to the solenoid then up to junction box then to switch. should the wire go directly from coil to switch? |
Was that a typo? Points gap is supposed to be .025, not 0.25. |
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Larharm Regular
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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that was a typo |
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Larharm Regular
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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the solenoid was on the tractor when i got it so don't know, but according to n'complete catalog
it shows 1958-1964 which i think the 631 is solenoid for 6v 4post i guess they mean 2small 2 big |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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switch to coil... only thing that might be inbetween is a resistor |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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Could well be that the 4 post is correct not 100% sure but either way the ignition wire should go to the switch |
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awhtx Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: 631 no spark |
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Your 631 should have a junction block on the steering column and the coil wire should be connected to the switched side of that. The 4 post relay is correct for a 631 and connecting the coil wire to the small post that is connected to the key switch will also work just fine. You only want power to the coil when the key switch is ON. |
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