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ct hanse New User
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: pto jubliee |
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the pto hand lever is very hard to move(engage). i have to use my foot to put it in gear, however , it comes out of gear ok. mine has live pto. ( FORD JUBLIEE) appericate any ideas as to problem. |
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Dell (WA) Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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ct hanse........why does it surprize you to learn ya gotta clomp yer clod-hoppers on yer clutch pedal to engage yer NAA's PTO lever??? It is driven thru yer tranny shafts and the PTO gears are NOT SYNCRO-MESH ........shifty Dell |
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Royse Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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I wish I had one of those aftermarket live PTO kits on my Jubilee.
Mine's just stock, with the transmission driven PTO.
I have heard those units are hard to find in working order. |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:40 am Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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the 'live' ones are tranny driven too.. it's just that the live kit is a pinion clutch to stop forward motioin. pto opeeration is uncahnged from a regular naa... |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:40 am Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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have you pulled the pto shaft and looked for slight bent splines inthe rear? |
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Sean in PA Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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Dell (WA) wrote: | (quoted from post at 20:56:17 10/07/12) ct hanse........why does it surprize you to learn ya gotta clomp yer clod-hoppers on yer clutch pedal to engage yer NAA's PTO lever??? It is driven thru yer tranny shafts and the PTO gears are NOT SYNCRO-MESH ........shifty Dell |
Dell, I don't think that he's talking about the clutch at all. I think he's saying that the PTO lever itself is so hard to move when engaging the PTO that he can't move it with his hand and has to use the extra strength of his leg to get it to move. if it's not grinding when he's doing it, then the clutch shouldn't make any difference. |
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Tony Jacobs Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:11 am Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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Hello Royse , I have one BRAND NEW FORD NAA LIVE PTO KIT still in the Ford Box if you want one bad enough . Used ones have brought a $1000 plus on Ebay but no has wanted to spend the money for a brand new one , go figure . Thanks Tony |
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Geo-TH,In Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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ct hanse,
My jubilee lever is harder to move than the pto lever on my IH C. Don't have to use my foot to move it. I just apply steady pressure and it's slow to move. No idea why.
George |
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Royse Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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TONY JACOBS wrote: | (quoted from post at 12:11:42 10/08/12) Hello Royse , I have one BRAND NEW FORD NAA LIVE PTO KIT still in the Ford Box if you want one bad enough . Used ones have brought a $1000 plus on Ebay but no has wanted to spend the money for a brand new one , go figure . Thanks Tony |
Thank you for the offer Tony, but I think at this point I'll live with it the way it is.
I bought a 960 with the two stage clutch so I have one with live PTO I can use when needed. |
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Royse Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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soundguy wrote: | (quoted from post at 08:40:25 10/08/12) the 'live' ones are tranny driven too.. it's just that the live kit is a pinion clutch to stop forward motioin. pto opeeration is uncahnged from a regular naa... |
Yes they are, thanks for the clarification.
Guess I got in a bit of a hurry when I worded that.  |
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Tony Jacobs Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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Hello Royse , Just thought I would let you know about it . It is the only new kit I have seen it years and it has been the hardest piece I have had to sell in my life , I thought it sell right away because it was new . I sold every used kit and even incomplete kits as fast as I could find them . Thanks Tony |
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Sean in PA Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:08 am Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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Tony, I'm not looking to buy your new kit, as I don't even have a tractor that it would fit in, but I'm just curious. You said that used ones sell for over $1000 on ebay. How much are you asking for the new kit that you're having such a hard time selling? |
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GLC Regular
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:30 am Post subject: Re: pto jubliee |
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Mine got progresively harder to shift into gear. Eventually it wouldn't go in at all. I split the tractor and replaced the PTO shift collar. The spines were twisted, probably from 50+ years of bushhogging and banging into stuff. If you pull the PTO shaft and the spline on it is okay, it is likely your shift collar inside. I replaced the collar and can put mine in gear with light finger/hand pressure now.
The collar is sitting on top of the trans case and slides in the shift housing, the round housing at the bottom of the trans. |
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