Farmall 560 tractors

[kyle from ohio]

hello im kyle im 16 and buying 2 old international 560 tractors.One is gas and one is diesel. Neither one has been started in 10-15 years.Both tractors were full of oil and antifreeze when I found them. Im just trying to make a check list of everything to do before I even think about trying to turn these things over. I know i need to change the oil, dump the fuel, and new spark plugs probably wouldnt hurt. Ive herd pouring automatic transmission fluid in the cylinders will clean and free up rings. Im wondering if you guys can think of anything else to do before I try starting them.
 

[JohnDeereJimOhio]

Are they Locked up? If they are loose no real need for the ATF. I would do all fluids and batterys new plugs in the gasser.. Where are you located in Ohio?
 

[kyle from ohio]

yes im from ohio
 

[kyle from ohio]

around forest and dunkirk ohio
 

[JohnDeereJimOhio]

Where at in ohio ?
 

[dhermesc]

I'd move them before it gets too cold, the transmissions probably have several gallons of water in them from sitting for so many years - especially if they are outside.
 

[oldtanker]

Where were they parked? Inside or out? If out exhaust covered? Try turning both engines by hand. If they turn you may get lucky and they may just start. I would drain the gas out of the gasser but on the diesel I would change the fuel filters (don't forget to bleed them) and see if it will fire. THe diesel will require the glow plugs be working. No ether if they work!

Rick
 

[dhermesc]

The chances the glow plugs work are probably about -0-. Too many times 560s and 656s that work everyday only have three or four working glow plugs and those D282s need them to start no matter how hot it is outside.
 

[Ted in NE-OH]

I use 50/50 ATF and Acetone. IT is thinner and gets in small spaces.
 

[W_B]

I did an internship in school (ATI) in Forest. Is the big feeder pig co-op still there? A guy I went to school with was the manager there.
 

[Paul from MI]

As JohnDeereJim & Oldtanker said--first step is to see if the engines are locked up. Can't remeber if a 560 has a hand crank, but if not, jack up a rear wheel, put it in high gear and try to see if you can turn the engine a little.If not, I would pull the valve covers and be sure the valves are all free. If you don't you risk bending a pushrod or breaking a rocker arm. Rocking a rear wheel doesn't put the same kind of strain on the engine so you don't risk bending connecting rods, etc. like pulling it could do. If they have been inside there's a good chance they wont be stuck. If not stuck, then putting new fuel filters and bleeding the diesel may bring it to life. The gasser will almost certainly need the carb cleaned and rebuilt, and most likely the tank will need to be cleaned too. If they have been outside and exhausts not covered they will almost certainly be stuck, and the best and cheapest way to unstick an engine is to disassemble it. I know old won't agree, but that's been my experience. Gaskets are cheaper than parts, so limit how much force you put on it trying to get it to move.
If it has been outside the transmission likely will have water in it. Crack a drain plug and let the water drain out. If you only get a little, it probably has done no damage. If you get enough that gears could have been immersed in water you should take a look at them before doing anything else. Good luck with them--should make a fun project for you and a wonderful learning excperience. Remember there's lots of guys on here that can help you more than I can.
 

[John A.]

Kyle, IMO, You will be waaaayyy ahead of problems by droping the pans and oil pumps on both engines and washing them out First!!!, then reassemble each, I did that on a tractor that has sat for only 4 yrs and the amount of nastiness was unbelievable!!! over 2 inches of crap that would have been redistributed up in the engine, If I hadn't have done that.
It also allows you to do a visual inspection for anything obvious.
I didn't disturb the gasket on the pan so I just reassembled it you can worry about leaks later. the point here is to clean it up some and enable you to get it started in low these many yrs. Also shoot a 50/50 mixture into the cylinders to prelube them so they dont score in the first few revolutions at start up.
Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.