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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This is probably an age-old debate and it's probably been talked about here countless times. Can a person expect any noticeable results when using oil additives which supposedly reduce oil comsumption and blow-by along with reduction of plug-fouling, etc? Please mention some specific products in your reply if you have had any luck (or no luck for that matter).
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Having been in the used truck n tractor business for years, hey sure I tried a bunch of snake oils to make a worn out vehicle stop so much blue (oil) smoking BUT NONE EVER WORKED !!!! and believe me I tried about all of em lol

That being said, I have had like 3 auto trannys that were slipping loosey goosey or slow or non shifting into which I added LUCAS TRANNY TREATMENT and I swear THE TRANNYS WERE CURED!!! Im serious as a heart attack n a train wreck IT ACTUALLY WORKED

While I cant post any other proveable or actual results from snake oil use and Im NOT saying anything other then Lucas tranny treatment worked for me, Lucas is still my favorite brand FWIW

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Crazy Horse wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:11:00 10/08/12) This is probably an age-old debate and it's probably been talked about here countless times. Can a person expect any noticeable results when using oil additives which supposedly reduce oil comsumption and blow-by along with reduction of plug-fouling, etc? Please mention some specific products in your reply if you have had any luck (or no luck for that matter).


Over the years I have tried just about everything available that claims to reduce oil burning and increase the viscosity of the oil. NONE of them had even the slightest effect on reducing oil burning. NONE of them.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

my thoughts, my perspective. additives have their place; however, metal loss is the primary reason for oil usage and additives do not replace lost metal. that said, additives can reduce oil consumption, reduce engine noise,slow down leaks and free up seized parts. i prefer lucus products.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Agreed.

Maybe an additive to help remove deposits on a dirty abused engine, but nothing liquid will replace metal.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree John T they are all snake oil. Most of them are just junk a few are nothing more than what the oil manufactures put in their product and are not needed.
My nephew worked for a used car lot and they have a real bad smoking car and the boss put something in it and sure enough it quit smoking. He said it would last long enough to get it off the lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a Toyota many years ago, it was about 5 years old and was using a quart of oil between changes. Neighbor talked me into Amsoil. Said it would stop the oil consumption (said to call him if it got down a quart, he'd bring me one free), and it would increase the idle speed because the bearings would be better lubricated. Had me run the car, and write down the idle speed before he made the change.

Believe it or not, he was right on both counts. No more oil usage, and idle speed increased by about 150 RPM (I adjusted it back to where it was supposed to be). We sold it before the 15k mile change time, so don't know how it turned out after that.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

the only thing i've used to stop fouling plugs are "foul points"
theyre threaded cups that fit into head and spark plug screws into them/
also there was a brown bottle of 8 balls in some greasy liquid...said install 1 ball in each cylinder...i have to admit it did work for awhile...maybe a month,and at 8 bux a bottle back in the early 70's i only tried in once.
K&W Transmedic was my Dodge Torqueflite repair kit in a can...had a few Dodges and Plymouths that would take forever in the morning to pickup a prime and move...pour a can of k&w in and they worked like new.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello Crazy Horse,
A hole in your pocket! Snake oil! Old wives tale!
Really not worth the bother.
Guido.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i have had good luck with Shaffer's Oil for stopping an engine from smoking.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Crazy Horse wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:11:00 10/08/12) This is probably an age-old debate and it's probably been talked about here countless times. Can a person expect any noticeable results when using oil additives which supposedly reduce oil comsumption and blow-by along with reduction of plug-fouling, etc? Please mention some specific products in your reply if you have had any luck (or no luck for that matter).


Would help if you told us what it was going to be used on. A really nasty engine can have the oil returns from the heads plugged that can cause smoking and excessive oil consumption. Pulling the valve covers and and rodding out the returns, then flushing the top of the head with a solvent or diesel can cure that much batter than the "snake oils". If stuck rings are the problem there are ways with dealing with that. They range from a high quality oil and running it to soaking the cylinders with ATF. On the other hand bad valve seals and worn rings have to be replaced. Stuck will cause excessive blow by and oil consumption.

I will not put any of the snake oils in my engines. On the auto tranny side the "conditioners" are designed to make the seals swell. Most ofthen poor shifting are caused by one of several problems. First would be plugged filter. 2nd is worn seals. Make those seals swell and presto! The tranny shifts lke it's supposed to. It's still a bandaid.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i'm with john t i use most all the lucas products with all good luck
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is an additive or two that will swell old seals and slow or stop leakage. For a while.....
Living on borrowed time if it works.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Guess I've borrowed a lot of time. When I got my 2-135 White 9 years or so ago,the first time I really worked it hard it started leaking oil out of the rear main seal in a stream about the size of a pencil lead. I dumped a couple of bottles of Lucas additive in it. By the end of the next day it had slowed to an occasional drip. By the end of the second day it had stopped altogether.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Expected results from oil additives? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My grand-dad was a mechanic from the 1920's until he died in 1978...and he had little faith in what he called "mechanic in a can." But he DID endorse Rislone for taking care of sticky hydraulic lifters, and Hastings "CASITE" when poured down the carb to clean up carboned-up, sticky valves.

With CASITE, I doubt that the enviro-nazis will allow you to use it in that way anymore, because of the huge amount of smoke it created.
 
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