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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a john deere 4630 with quad range transmission and a 13 shank case chissel plow. My question is what gear or ground is ideal for chissel plowing? I'm planning on going about 10 to 12 inches deep. Any input or opinions is appreciated

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Your going to need duals, and a full set of weights on the front. We pulled a 14 shank case chisel with our hot 4440 for a few years. It had plenty of power, but hard to keep the front down. Most of the 44 and 46s around here pulled 10 shank chisels.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

craig is right, it'll b a load, i pull a 9 shank glenco about a foot deap with a 4640 in b2, you will just have to try it and see how it pulls, you dont wanna bog the tractor down or do a bunch of spinning
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well, depending on what width teeth you use and the soil type you're working there's a lot to consider...but I think 13 shanks is too much for an average 4630, no matter how much it's weighted down if you're thinking of going 10 to 12 inches deep. I used to pull a 11 shank with 4 inch twisted teeth with a turned up 4640 (200 hp) and dual 20.8-38's at 10 inches deep and 5-6 mph and it was plenty enough for that tractor in average conditions here with our mixed soils and a few stones.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks. The plow just has 2 or 3 inch straight points and the tractor is dualed with a full set of weights up front. Tried it a bit today and probably going to drop the outside shanks off in the future. I could only run about 7 inches deep and was running in B1 most of the time a little in B2. Pulled a couple wheelies. This ground hasn't been worked very deep for the past 10 years or so. Had a friend working another field with his Titan four wheel drive with 500+ horse with a dmi ripper and could only go about 8 to 10 inches deep previous tenants didn't believe in working ground very deep it was to rough for them in the spring they always said.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For 10 seasons, we pulled a 13 shank DMI chisel plow @ 10" to 12" deep with a dualled up 4430 turned up to 135 hp. 7 straight points, 6 twisted points. Pulled it in B2.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not many if any chisels will go 10/12 inches.V-Rippers will but take close to 30+ H.P. per shank.Non front wheel drives can be short on traction.Usually better to go a little smaller and carry more speed.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My thoughts exactly Larry,a lot of people think that just because the shanks are shined up 12-14" that the plow is going in that deep. A chisel plow needs to be pulled "Briskly" to do a good job, if you are fighting for traction you lose the turbulence of the soil flow, and end up just "scratching". If you plan to farm with a tillage method and a mid to small tractor you would be much better off moleboard plowing...you will end up with a more consistent seed bed.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I pull a 7 shank Glencoe soil saver with my 4430 Dynoed at 140hp and its all she wants when it is put in deep. Currently in the market for a good 4630 to pull the 7 shank Glencoe. In my opinion, anything bigger than that will be too much for a 4630. That is here in Illinois so it cold be different in lighter soils. We used to pull an 11 shank Glencoe SS with an IH 4586 4wd 300hp.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 4630 chissel plowing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A disk chisel with twisted points is going to pull harder than a plain chisel with two inch straight points like the one I have.
 
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