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Mark Poss
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:56 pm    Post subject: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

First time plowing today in almost 40 years with a little genious 2 bottom. Cant remember half of the stuff my dad taught me. I am setting the plow pretty deep for the first back to back passes I cant even remember what that is called I know it is the opposite of a dead furrow. But anyway no matter how deep I set the plow in soft ground I am plowing a foot deep in harder ground I am plowing four inches. Would putting weight on the beams of the plow help in controlling the depth? Sure wish my dad was still around. Thanks for any help, Mark.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check your plow shares.They must have "suck".If they look like a 'sled runner',the plow will not plow right.It will do just the thing you are describeing.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not much help, but a "back furrow" is what you get when the two adjoining furrows meet plowed together, makes a ridge across the field. A "dead furrow" is what you get when the two adjoining furrows are plowed apart - makes a groove in the field.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is the ground really dry?? Nothing plows right when it is too dry.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like you points are worn out. With out proper shape and drop to the points you can't plow well.

Crown furrow is the term I've always heard for 2 furrows coming together.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anyone know where I can get plow shares for this plow? Thanks, Mark.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We always called it a back ridge around here, you might have a time finding new shares. Not sure if the little genius uses plow chief bottoms but if so they are getting hard to come by.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Always called a headland and that plow likely has the blacksmith sharpen type of shares that likely could be rebuilt and be good. If you could post pictures of the shares I could tell you how to go about rebuilding them with a welder and a cutting torch. May only require a bit of work or may require a complete rebuilding. Either way not too bad if you can weld.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here are a couple of pictures if I get them posted on here. Thanks, Mark.


 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Share is toast. Needs a point on it.New share or smitty.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

does your plow look something like this one: its a IH (McCormick-Deering?) #8 Little Genius 2-14 trailer plow from the 1940s.

 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

might try this guy for new points, if you need them: good luck with the old plow

Duayne and Sandy Hansford, had their parts trailer at Portland In this week. Dwayne just got in some Plow Chief points that he is having made of malable steel. they look real good and are cheaper then any other prices I have heard for Plow chief points.

Now The Good stuff!!! Duayne also has wield on points for the old quick tach blacksmith shares. He had the mold made from a NOS point he had.These points are also malable steel. Unfortunately he doesn't have the wield on share edge to pattern replacements for those. But at least with a new point you can improve the plow's suck.

Dwayne is from Edinburg, In, and can be emailed at rusticredacres@yahoo.com
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can someone show me pictures of what they should look like? Thanks, Mark.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have some point that rebuilt. If you can look at the bottom for the number I can see if I have them.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: Help with plowing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I looked around for some good pics of what the points are supposed to look like with no luck. All I can say is yours are completely worn out and worn down into the underlayer. The "nose" should be about an inch, inch and half longer, more squared and drop about 1/4-3/8" below the bottom line of rest of the plow. If I run across a picture I'll link to it.

Try Farmer Browns Plow Shop, BW Macknair or google plow points.
 
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