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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

have not seen these on a tractor before. they have a spilt rim on the outside. any guesses?

tires are 11-24 truck/bus tires


 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have seen that type before. Commonly used on military tugs and air craft tractors for the military
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

First off those ARE NOT SPLIT RIMS , that is only a LOCK RING and yes they are very common on equipment especially when you get to very high ply tires that are not very flexible when it comes to installation . In your top photo you will see that the LOCK RING is fully seated in the RIM , In bottom photo the LOCK RING is partially unseated , you need to let the air out of that tire and RESEAT THE LOCK RING then reinflate the tire or take it to a tire shop and have them do it . Thanks Tony
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"ARE NOT SPLIT RIMS"

did not know what else to call them. i will follow your advice and correct the one ring tommorow.

thanks for the info and input.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't fret. Most of the rest of the world would refer to them as "split rims", too.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

They are LOCK RING RIMS the rim is not SPLIT , the LOCK RING retains the tire on the ONE PIECE RIM . SPLIT RIMS were used on TRUCKS years ago and are made of THREE PIECES ( look them up on the internet ) , the rim is two pieces with a lock ring to hold the two rims havles together , they are also OUTLAWED by the D.O.T. as many FATALITIES (not to mention lost hands and arms when they blow apart ) have happened from guys who do not know how to assemble them correctly . They were used from the 30's through the early 70's . I have changed Lock Ring Rims all of my life but I have NEVER touched a split rim and NEVER will . Thanks Tony
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello Rick , You could also say most of the rest of the world has no clue either , but if you ever knew some killed by a split rim you know the difference real fast . At my Uncle's old shop there was a perfect round hole in the roof you drop a 55 gal drum through when a Split Rim Exploded killing ( as in cutting him in half ) the guy inflating it , it was an Old Autocar 24" tire and rim . Thanks Tony
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i do believe the duece and a half i drove for uncle sam had "spilt rims".
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am sure it did the two we had on my Uncle's Dairy Farm did and we never touched them . If you drove an early one or a left over from WW2(called CCKW's) the axle housings split like a Model A rear axle if you drove a later one (like we had on the Farm)the third member or pig came out like the all modern axles do , from the back of the housing . Thanks Tony
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

They are commonly called split rims, whatever you say. Your wealth of knowledge is easily overrun by your insistance on correcting every percieved error that anyone happens to post. I could really care less because 99% of the people that I know would describe those rims as "split rims" regardless of whatever the manufacturer described them as 70 years ago, or you do today. I don't need your lectures.

I fully understand the dangers they pose, a very talented, salt-of the-earth type of guy I used to know had his head torn off by one of those rings about 10 years ago.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: unfimiliar rims Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello Rick , 3 sentences is not a lecture and I have no idea what your knowledge is either or even how long you have been around equipment but the poster did not even realize his ring was not fully seated and while the danger of being hurt is not very high because of the low amount of air pressure in his tire he still should know about it and the correct type of rim he has . While some guy who doesn't know better changing a tire on a Lock Ring Rim may not be a big deal but the same guy changing a tire on a true split rim it could also be his last tire change for life , joining the guys we already have known killed by these rims . There is still plenty of homemade farm trailers out there with these type of rims on them and if one guy sees that and says I wonder if those are the killer rims he just may live to see another day . Tony
 
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