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wascator Regular
Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: Deutz Tractors |
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Hi, I have found Deutz tractors interesting and wonder if there are any fans and/or owners on the Forum? I looked at a pretty solid-looking 30 06 this afternoon; I'd rather have a 45-50 HP machine, though. Owner asked me $2600 and wouldn't come off any. |
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dave2 Tractor Guru
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 13551 Location: Kutzberg, Germany 1972 IHC 423 (German). 2.5 Liter 3cyl direct injection diesel 42HP
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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I don't know a lot about them other than they are supposed to sip fuel and be bulletproof........ Most are air cooled here but supposedly the stuff that made it over there is water cooled...... The older ones are pretty neat also...
Don't know about the one you saw as far as condition, but they hold their value good here and parts are almost cheap.... That 2600 bucks prolly wouldn't buy a ruff one here........ |
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torwood9 Regular
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 109 Location: Central WI
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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My dad had 4 of them on the farm, and I still run one of them. Diddo on the sipped fuel and bulletproof stuff. Just like a radiator, keep he cooling fins clean and you are good to go. That 30-06 will use less than a half gallon an hour working it. Dad had a 45-06 that he used for everything he could. Where abouts are you? |
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Dalet Long Time User
Joined: 18 Mar 2012 Posts: 974 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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they are bulletproof, I will admit. We have a 100 06 from back in the 70's. We had a pto powered pump for the pivot back then. That tractor would sit out there running for weeks on end in the summer. When we brought it back it would have over 500 hours on an oil change. Then it would get used to chop corn stalks after the oil change for years. It still runs as good as it ever did. |
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rrlund Tractor Guru
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 15691
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:17 am Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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The engine was great,but I don't know if you can say that for the rest of the tractor. The neighbor bought a new 100 06. That thing was back in the shop with transmission/rearend trouble for so long the first year,I'd forgot that he even bought it. The day he got it back I was following him down the road and it started lugging down. He took the filler cap off the transmission and smoke was rolling out.
They finally got that fixed,but when he traded it off for a new AC all the bolt holes for the drawbar were stripped out and the drawbar was held on by a chain and binder. |
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Will Herring Long Time User
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 904
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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I got to use an Agco-Allis 6680 one time, and I'm pretty sure it seemed like it had an air cooled Deutz engine in it? Never did get to use an actually Deutz or Deutz-Allis machine, though. |
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ihman73 Regular
Joined: 15 Dec 2011 Posts: 421 Location: Godfrey,IL
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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We had a neighbor that had several ranging from 100-06's to a DX120 and 160. After helping work on them some I will keep my IH's and deeres's. I don't care how good you think your machining is there should be nothing put together without gaskets. The DX160 was a rolling oil spill. |
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rrlund Tractor Guru
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 15691
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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I think that one would have had the White built transmission and rearend. |
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Fritz Maurer Long Time User
Joined: 14 May 2011 Posts: 1072
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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I don't know a thing about Deutz except that I love that F5L912 sitting under my bench, that I saved from the scrapper. Every defect you mentioned sounds more owner/dealer inflicted than anything else. Drawbar bolts are easy to strip if the bracketry is left to flop around. On ANY tractor. To secure it with a binder instead of fixing it properly is just a public display of stupidity. If the damage was such that repair is impossible (broken casting), well, he got what he deserved. The A-C probably didn't fare much better under this owner. |
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JDseller Tractor Guru
Joined: 09 Jul 2010 Posts: 4483 Location: North-East Iowa
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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I am primarily a JD guy but I have only bought four new tractors in my life. Funny thing none of them a JD. Two of them where Deutz. I had a DX 3.5 Deutz-Fahr and I replaced it with a Deutz/Allis 6275. The DX 3.5 was just a little small for my haybine. I had it three or four years. I loved to use it for mowing hay and bush hogging. It was much cooler on the operator platform than the same size JD tractors. It did not steer quite as sharp and the hydraulics where not the most handy but it was a great running and starting tractor. I wish I still had it.
A good friend had used it a little and he really liked it. So he asked me if I would sell it. I told him yes. I got more than I had given for it new. I went to my Deutz dealer to get another new one. He could not get one as they where switching to the SAME tractors from the Deutz/Fahr ones. You could not give me a SAME built one. They are not even close to the same tractor. I have been watching for another one ever since and have not found one yet that is what I want.
So if you can get a Duetz 30-06 for that kind of money and it is not beat all to crap then I would jump on it. They are a rugged tractor that is easy on fuel. |
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rrlund Tractor Guru
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 15691
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Deutz Tractors |
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No,it didn't. He took a bearing out in the transmission on that one and ruined the casting.
It's been a while ago,but if memory serves me right,he claimed the rearend housing on the Deutz wasn't cast iron. It was some other alloy. Don't know,really don't. As far as the transmission on the Deutz going out under warranty,that's a whole nuther story. I don't think he did anything to cause that. I don't think Deutz/Allis even sold very many until they went to the White chassis. |
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