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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:34 am    Post subject: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The situation: I pulled the head on my 2N last night (it hasn't run for 20 years, engine stuck)

I found the #1 cylinder badly rusted, and both valves on #1 in the open position. I have it soaking in ATF overnight.

My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?

Cost is important on this project, but not the overriding consideration, my mechanic skills are moderate at best. How much should I attempt to do myself?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

check the crank journals..just a little info,they were built to be overhauled in frame, in the feild.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Gustafson wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:34:00 11/01/12) The situation: I pulled the head on my 2N last night (it hasn't run for 20 years, engine stuck)

I found the #1 cylinder badly rusted, and both valves on #1 in the open position. I have it soaking in ATF overnight.

My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?

Cost is important on this project, but not the overriding consideration, my mechanic skills are moderate at best. How much should I attempt to do myself?


If skills are "moderate at best" I'd suggest a shop. Use it as a chance to develop your skills a bit while doing some of the preliminary disassembly. Remove the engine and strip it the bare block. Remove the oil pan and take a peek inside before you hand it off to the pros. Expect a bill for roughly $1500 when you get it back.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If rusted much of any a full rebuild will need to be done because you will not be able to hone out all the rust pits. Sort of makes me think about a Honda 50 I had back when I was 16 or so. The cylinder on it was so bad a set of rings would last maybe a week or 2. Replace the rings every week or so till the rings cleaned up the cylinder and all was ok for a long time. Bet I put in 4 or 5 sets of rings before the cylinder cleaned up enough for the rings to stay in but back then a set of rings and the gaskets I needed cost less then $10
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sure is easier when it's on an engine stand.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you want an experience that will make you feel good and have accomplished something, get you a local 8N or 9N owner that has overhauled an engine. He can give you a list of things needed to strip the engine down. Once stripped, he can talk you through the installation of a top end kit. Kit will cost $300+/- and buy your adviser a steak dinner. He will have to come by 3-4 times. I've done this and enjoy helping a fellow N'er. Didn't even get my hands dirty.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Gustafson wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:34:00 11/01/12) The situation: I pulled the head on my 2N last night (it hasn't run for 20 years, engine stuck)

I found the #1 cylinder badly rusted, and both valves on #1 in the open position. I have it soaking in ATF overnight.

My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?

Cost is important on this project, but not the overriding consideration, my mechanic skills are moderate at best. How much should I attempt to do myself?



Most farmers back in the day had no mechanic skill or experience. That N was most likely someones first tractor. Ain't that hard and a relly good starter engine for someone willing to learn.

Where are you located? Maybe someone close by can help you out.

Rick

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?

There is a thing called mission creep. Like when you need a tool that you don't have and head off in a completely new direction before returning to the original mission.

The collective wisdom here is powerful, but its your call.

Other possibilities:

out of frame, you do
find a used engine
part the tractor out

;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QV6FpYfbn0
 
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