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thommoos Regular
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject: will not spin over. |
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8n Front distr with a 9n motor, Just installed a new harness and ignition switch. Tractor had a car type set-up (starting with key). Hooked all the wires up (real easy. put it in nuetral step on the button Nothing.
things I noticed- According to FO4 sylenoid bolts to starter, mine does not.
No click, no spin,
Battery has 12.6 volts, and does have continutiy between pos and neg is that right? |
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Dell (WA) Tractor Guru
Joined: 21 Sep 1998 Posts: 23784
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: will not spin over. |
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uh? Tom.........I flunked mind reading, just ask my ex-wife of 32-yrs.
You write......."According to FO4, sylenoid bolt so starter, mine does not." .........so where does your solenoid bolt to???
You write......."Battery has 12.6 volts, and does have continutiy between pos and neg is that right?"........um, depends.....pos and neg WHAT??? .........respectfully, mindless Dell |
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thommoos Regular
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: will not spin over. |
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meaning 2 flathead screws to starter. not only the power supply.
Positive and negative post of the battery, should it have continuity?
Mindreading uh, I was with my wife all weekend, that why I so confused. |
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Royse Tractor Expert
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3041 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: will not spin over. |
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Sounds like you have a 9N starter too.
Is there a wire connected to your push button?
Where is your solenoid, and how is it wired?
If it has a car type solenoid on it, and you are trying to run it with an 8N push
button it probably won't work.
The car type required power to the small post to engage, the tractor type require
ground to the small post which is supplied by the push button.
If you're sure you have the wiring right, you could test that theory by running a
temporary jumper from battery positive to the small solenoid wire with the key off.
By ABSOLUTELY certain its in neutral first so you don't run yourself over. |
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Dell (WA) Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: will not spin over. |
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thom........you answer........"Positive and negative post of the battery, should it have continuity?"........HOW do you measure continuity? With an OHM-meter??? More better you use VOLT-meter. That is what they are made for. Iff'n I remember my chemistry correctly, each lead-acid cell is approximately 2.5-ohms. So fer 6-cell 12V-battery, I'll let you do the math. (hint: 15-ohms)
You answer......."meaning 2 flathead screws to starter. not only the power supply.".......would it surprize you to learn the 8N roundcan starter solenoid is held on by 2-ea 10-32x3/8" filister head screws. (tall flathead screw with washer) ..........HTH, mindless Dell |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:58 am Post subject: Re: will not spin over. |
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oem starter button will not work with a key to start automotive solenoid.
ps... you sure it's an 8n.. post a pic... |
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jackinok Tractor Expert
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:27 am Post subject: Re: will not spin over. |
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solenoid on these are not the same as a car. which is how your tractor WAS wired. the solenoid made for these had just one side post,and had to be mounted the right direction to work. start button itself made contact to ground for the coil of the solenoid. you can sometimes use a car solenoid "IF" you know how to test one and hook it up correctly ,but its much easier to buy a 8n solenoid.(NOTE) a 9n and a 8n are wired differently!!!!!! you say your solenoid is not mounted on the starter,where EXACTLY is it mounted? thats the key.. does it actually have a SOLENOID or does it have a START SWITCH? does it have a small WIRE only to the push button itself,or does it not have?three speed or four speed transmission? so many parts can be interchanged on these that you sort of have to piece together what you have. some 8ns for instance had front mount dist,so that alone does not mean you have a 9n engine. |
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