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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey, Soundguy and others, help me prove my ignorance about 700 and 900 series Fords. Do they have lift arms that are longer, have bends in them or what to use the same mounted equipment as a 600-800 would use? I ran a 641 for years and never thought there would be a difference. But how do they account for the height difference?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

they use the same equipment.

longer lift link arms among other things.

pto shaft angle is different.. etc.

here's a rear shot of a rowcrop...

 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The lift arm attachment points are lowered below the differential housing via "Y" brackets and the top link attachment is lowered via a pivoting apparatus so as to accomodate the same implements as the 6/8 series tractors.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

While we're on the subject of differences, is the rear on the 7xx the same as the 6xx and 9xx the same as the 8xx other than the drops on the ends of the trumpets?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i believe the 7xx and 9xx share the same center section, and it is the lighter 6xx version.

dean or another will correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks, guys. Seen pictures but couldn"t tell without having them side by side.
Looked like the 3rd arm(top link) was longer too. Guessed that was because of the taller hight of the rear end.
So, if you find a 961 that really doesn"t fit in your shed, let me know. There"s an empty stall in the new shed that might be looking for one.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

most rowcrops I pass by follow me home Smile Wink even other brand ones.. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 641 vs. 961 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No, the Row Crop rear ends are completely different from the Ag/Utility rear ends.
First: all of the Row Crops share the same rear end. There is no difference between the 7XX and 9XX rear ends. The ring gear in the RC is on the opposite side of the pinion gear than on the Ag/Ut models due to the fact that the "drop boxes" cause a reversal in the direction of rotation. Therefore the axles have to rotate in the opposite direction to prevent the tractor from having 4 reverse speeds and 1 forward speed (assuming a 4 speed trans).
Second: The lower lift arm and top link connections are completely different on the RC.
 
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