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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Very new to the forum and starting out with a problem ... hope to get some advice and direction. I recently bought a 1972 Ford 3000 diesel. Did a lot of cosmetic work and then ran it for less than two hours and the connecting rod in the #3 cylinder decided to venture outside the motor!!! I have limited engine work experience and am concerned about how to go about this repair.
1. Advice on approx. cost for me to get a used block, and rebuild the motor.
2. Any good ideas on where to get a used diesel engine? Is this a better way to go?
3. Any direction and advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks like it took a nice piece out of the camshaft and let a tappet drop out of its bore, too. Not much to save below the head gasket except maybe the oilpan & drainplug.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Call fawcett tractor and get a used engine. They
should have something half decent.

Rod
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Lot's of places to get your replacement stuff. Try Wengers in Meyerstown PA Rippees used tractor parts in MO. Both great places..Google them for contact info
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That just bites the biscuit.
Sorry to see/hear that on your new to you tractor.
Where did you get it? Any recourse via the seller?

Used engine looks like your only remedy.

Pete
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Where are you? I think Ultradog could set you up with what you need. He's in MN.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As far as the block goes, if the block only has a hole in it, do you think you could repair the hole with some epoxy filler or JB weld, Rick? i know he"ll need a new cam and crank and rods, etc but maybe the block might be salvagable.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear about your "new" tractor. I agree, see if Jerry (UltradogMN) can help with parts.
On a lighter note, I assume from your user name you must own/fly a C185. I got about 30 minutes in a C185 about 25-30 years ago. Owned a C170 for a few years.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Alan, Mark,
Thanks for the plug.
I wish I had an engine for him.
I have a block and a head but only a crank for a 158 not a 175.
I would start looking for a complete engine if it were me.
I bought a complete 201D 3 years ago for $800 and sold a complete 175D about a year and a half ago for $750. Both were good runners.
That's a LOT cheaper than finding the parts and having something rebuilt.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you for the advice and words of wisdom. I particularly
have appreciated some advise from UltradogMN. I have some better
ideas on how to proceed, I"m sure a few of you can relate but
it"s a matter not only of finances but time and approval from
the "war department". I am actively looking for a good deal on
a used tractor with a bad tranny or a used engine etc. if
anyone has any leads feel free to let me know. Again thanks
for the insights!!!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, at one time I flew 185's -my favorite all time plane. Still fly but nothing as fun as the ol' sky wagon! Thanks for the sympathies!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip... Have you had any issues getting things out of Canada?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a friend who knows little if anything about tractors but likes old cars, he suggested the same thing, cover the whole in the block, goop it up and rebuild. I'm not so sure, I guess I would like to know what folks think of that idea as well. I should say that the primary use of the tractor is not everyday heavy farming -rather its cutting a field a few times a year, doing some dirt pushing from time to time and just a great stress reliever (althought the hole in the block did not do any stress releiving, I can tell you that for sure)!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Pete, thanks for the concern, no real recourse, I bought it from a farmer in upstate NY. I was the rookie fool that bought what I am sure he knew about! Not happy but little recourse, as is sale - used etc. you know the gig. I still love the tractor but do wonder what I was thinking with this one in particular. Still a lesson learned and I guess some valuable experience to come!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 (diesel) Engine Block Viewing Window! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

By any chance were there any old dealer stickers on it, we sold those new outside of troy ny, ps, ny father also had a Cessna 170, don't see too many of those doing that, really wonder what in heck caused it, hopefully you will find another motor or what the heck, build one up nice and enjoy that 3000, great little tractor.
 
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