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Gustafson
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 Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:34 am Post subject: 2N in frame? |
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The situation: I pulled the head on my 2N last night (it hasn't run for 20 years, engine stuck)
I found the #1 cylinder badly rusted, and both valves on #1 in the open position. I have it soaking in ATF overnight.
My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?
Cost is important on this project, but not the overriding consideration, my mechanic skills are moderate at best. How much should I attempt to do myself?
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jackinok
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? |
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check the crank journals..just a little info,they were built to be overhauled in frame, in the feild.
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TheOldHokie
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:14 am Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? |
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| Gustafson wrote: | (quoted from post at 09:34:00 11/01/12) The situation: I pulled the head on my 2N last night (it hasn't run for 20 years, engine stuck)
I found the #1 cylinder badly rusted, and both valves on #1 in the open position. I have it soaking in ATF overnight.
My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?
Cost is important on this project, but not the overriding consideration, my mechanic skills are moderate at best. How much should I attempt to do myself? |
If skills are "moderate at best" I'd suggest a shop. Use it as a chance to develop your skills a bit while doing some of the preliminary disassembly. Remove the engine and strip it the bare block. Remove the oil pan and take a peek inside before you hand it off to the pros. Expect a bill for roughly $1500 when you get it back.
TOH
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old
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? |
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If rusted much of any a full rebuild will need to be done because you will not be able to hone out all the rust pits. Sort of makes me think about a Honda 50 I had back when I was 16 or so. The cylinder on it was so bad a set of rings would last maybe a week or 2. Replace the rings every week or so till the rings cleaned up the cylinder and all was ok for a long time. Bet I put in 4 or 5 sets of rings before the cylinder cleaned up enough for the rings to stay in but back then a set of rings and the gaskets I needed cost less then $10
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HCooke
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:54 am Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? |
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Sure is easier when it's on an engine stand.
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Charnerl
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? |
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If you want an experience that will make you feel good and have accomplished something, get you a local 8N or 9N owner that has overhauled an engine. He can give you a list of things needed to strip the engine down. Once stripped, he can talk you through the installation of a top end kit. Kit will cost $300+/- and buy your adviser a steak dinner. He will have to come by 3-4 times. I've done this and enjoy helping a fellow N'er. Didn't even get my hands dirty.
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oldtanker
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? |
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| Gustafson wrote: | (quoted from post at 06:34:00 11/01/12) The situation: I pulled the head on my 2N last night (it hasn't run for 20 years, engine stuck)
I found the #1 cylinder badly rusted, and both valves on #1 in the open position. I have it soaking in ATF overnight.
My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?
Cost is important on this project, but not the overriding consideration, my mechanic skills are moderate at best. How much should I attempt to do myself? |
Most farmers back in the day had no mechanic skill or experience. That N was most likely someones first tractor. Ain't that hard and a relly good starter engine for someone willing to learn.
Where are you located? Maybe someone close by can help you out.
Rick
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russb wa
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: Re: 2N in frame? |
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My question: is she a candidate for a in-frame-overhaul or should I just turn it over to the machine shop?
There is a thing called mission creep. Like when you need a tool that you don't have and head off in a completely new direction before returning to the original mission.
The collective wisdom here is powerful, but its your call.
Other possibilities:
out of frame, you do
find a used engine
part the tractor out
;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QV6FpYfbn0
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