Yesterday's Tractor Co.
Shop Now View Cart
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile    Log inLog in 

Super MTA hydraulics

Goto page 1, 2  Next

 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
460anger
Regular


Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 336


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Somebody was asking about how to use a newer valve. This is how I'm doing mine. I gutted all the hydraulics out of the box. Made a bolt with 2 O ring grooves to seal where the handle used to go in. Still have to run the 2 hoses to the back. With the price of new tires, Found these ones. They are 480/80X38 on 16 inch rims. What I have in them, you couldn't buy the tubes. Plan on putting wide front end on with 11X15 tires on it. Should make it look pretty tough.



 
Back to top
View user's profile
the tractor vet
Tractor Guru


Joined: 24 May 2000
Posts: 14392


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's great, Now what are you going to use for a pressure relief . The pump does not know when to quite pumping till something breaks.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
sflem849
Tractor Guru


Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 6185
Location: SE Wisconsin

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The tractor vet wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:06:12 11/04/12) That's great, Now what are you going to use for a pressure relief . The pump does not know when to quite pumping till something breaks.


Where is the pressure relief normally?

Some valves have one built in.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
460anger
Regular


Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 336


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Boy tractor vet, I thought of you being alot smarter then that!!! The valve I'm using is an open center, so the oil goes back into the reservoir just like the original. And the valve also has a pressure relief built into it that can be set from 1000 to 2750 psi. This is not my first day at the rodeo, but thanks for your concerns. And if you also noticed, it's a 450 I've made into an MTA. So, let's start the bashing!! It's mine, it's the way I want it, and that's that!
 
Back to top
View user's profile
TractormanNC
Long Time User


Joined: 29 Dec 2006
Posts: 1237


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is a Cross valve. They usually have a relief valve built in. Should be a round cap with about a 1 inch hex to the left of the valve spool. Can't see well enough to tell if it is there or not. If it has one it is probably set to about 2000 psi. I would back it off and bring the pressure up to no more than 1200 psi as that is about what these pumps were rated for. That way you don't break something expensive. Used the same valve set up on my M for many years.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
TractormanNC
Long Time User


Joined: 29 Dec 2006
Posts: 1237


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

460 You type faster than I do.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
460anger
Regular


Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 336


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

soory about that.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
460anger
Regular


Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 336


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

To fast spelled wrong sorry about the miss spell
 
Back to top
View user's profile
460anger
Regular


Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 336


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

tractorman your right on the money. I also have used many of these vavles. I've always had good luck with them.Thanks again
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Bouncer
Tractor Guru


Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 7270


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You sure got the anger part of your username is right.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
460anger
Regular


Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 336


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yes sir
 
Back to top
View user's profile
the tractor vet
Tractor Guru


Joined: 24 May 2000
Posts: 14392


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey i did not look the valve over that well all i was doing was pointing out . and myself i really don't care if your making a contorfit S/MTA. I looked for 15 years for the one i got and i am happy with mine just the way it is . And yes i am pretty sharp on farmalls .
 
Back to top
View user's profile
mkirsch
Tractor Guru


Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Posts: 11846


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Before you get your knickers in a twist, just think about what if you did NOT think of the relief valve already? You'd be kissing tractor vet's feet for saving you from splitting your pump in half, not getting defensive.

Just because you know doesn't mean that we know you know.

Heck, even if we know that you know, that doesn't mean you didn't forget.

You won't get any guff from me about your clone MTA. Taking a clapped-out 400 and making it into an MTA is on my list, if I don't find one.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
sflem849
Tractor Guru


Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 6185
Location: SE Wisconsin

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Also just because a valve is open center doesnt mean the is no need for a relief valve. I also find it more likely that your valve is tandem center.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
460anger
Regular


Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 336


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Super MTA hydraulics Reply to specific post Reply with quote

mkirsch... Understand where you're coming from, but I'm sure in your life there are people that rub you wrong. I'll leave it at that. The biggest thing you need for your 400 project is the top cover from an MTA or some say the later Super M. And the rest is pretty much bolt on. I used M sheet metal. I shortened and redrilled the frame rails to accept the sheet metal. Also used the 450 radiator, just changed the filler neck. Thanks for your input.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Farmall & International Harvester (IHC) All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
Fast Shipping!  Most of our stocked parts ship within 24 hours (M-Th). Expedited shipping available, just call! Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors. Compare our super low shipping rates! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor. We are a company you can trust and have generous return policies. Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ About Us ]

YT Home  |  Forums

Modern View Forum powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters