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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

JD Seller,
Do you only work on JD tractors? I am looking at a JD 6x30 694AN planter. Needs some work. What are your thoughts on these planters? I only have a small acreage in Southern Minnesota. I can send you pics later to show you what I am searching answers for. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How is parts availability on them? Were good machines in their day. I like the depth setup a person gets with a 7000, but the x94s were good, the IHC 56 was the Red equivelant.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mine was the 4 row version, 494A, any questions perhaps I can answer. Also had and still do have it plus the 494 that preceded it. As for use I would take one any day over a 7000 that you could not give me to use.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Leroy,
I have some pictures of the planter. Can I email them to you and explain what I am looking for? Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi Paul,
A coworker's FIL has this planter for sale. He sent me pictures of it. Looks like it sat outside for quite a long time. Needs work, that's for sure. I have pics I can email you if you would like to see what you think of it? Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Kow Farmer,
I ran a 7000 planter for about 10 years, they are good planters. Way better than a 494. Why do you think Kinze copied them?
If it has sat outside, consider it the same as a combine that isn't shedded. It will need some work, and the shafts are more exposed than on a combine.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have worked on JD planters a fair bit too. The 94 series are a shoe type planter usually. If you plow everything they will work fairly good. In heavy sod they will drag even then. There is a reason that just about every modern planter is a double disk type. Also the depth control at the press wheel is a poor designed compared to gauging the depth right at the planting unit.

As for Leroy stating he does not like the JD 7000 planter. Well that planter took over 75% of the total planter market before Kinze launched theirs and cut into the total.

Send me some pictures and I will try to help all I can.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just remember, You must till every acre! No minimum till, or no till planting!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for your response. Can you send me an email please? My email is kcfarm@newulmtel.net
Thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I do tillage on all acres. Moldbaord plowing on corn and chisel plow soybean stubble.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Kinze started off using JD row units on their custom frames. The JD unit is self standing where something like a cyclo was not. Eventually JD screwed over Kinze and cut off the supply. Big hoopola in court and Kinze was able to build their copy. Deere screwed themselves out of selling all those units and it's funny to see someone actually copy a deere since all deere does is copy everyone elses inventions.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Kow Farmer, you need to open your email for me to send you mine so you can send the pictures. As for setting outside the worst will be if it has fertilizer boxes and next will be if it is setting in the ground and last thing on that to think about is the seed boces if they were left uncovered and full of dirt-leaves. As for the depth control they are all talking about the 7000 being better is if you do not properly prepary and level your ground and a 7000 if plate uses exactly the same seed boxes in the meetering parts as every planter from the 246,446,290,490, 494, 12XX series. The reason the 7000 took over was the first good plateless setup and most will be plateless whereeverything older than the 12XX series will be plate ans most of the 12XX series are plate type. And I do not want a planter that I would need a lader to check seed boxes even setting on the ground. And the older planters pull easier, you will never see a 7000 puled with less than 70 horse but 30 horse will handle that 694AN.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you can't check the seed in a 7000 without a ladder? Are you a dwarf or what? If everyone tilled the ground enough to make a 694 work fuel bills and erosion would skyrocket, I started with a 494A,I have no interest in going back to plates, a 7000 is a big step up. Ask your local jd dealer about seed box floor plates(which are usually worn out) bevel gears, seed knock offs ect and they probably won't have a clue what you are talking about as the parts man is probably younger than the planter. Kow Farmer $7 dollar corn is worth a good planter. If you don't want to spend what a 7000 will cost then go with an 800 IH or a 5100 White, they can probably be bought cheaper.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Paul , The 56 is not equal to a jd in regard to row unit design and depth control, jd has parralel linkage, ih does not.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: JD Seller..JD planter ?? for you Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Leroy you must have pool table flat ground. If you have to plant through a low spot, with a planter with press wheel gauging, as you crest the low spot the corn gets planted deeper then as you get to the bottom the corn is planted shallower.

Also a shoe type planter is a PIA to get to work is some conditions. Such as heavy grass sod. Even plowed there are still chunks of sod that will drag in front of the runner and then you have your corn planted into a ditch.

As for seed box height. I just went and measured a JD 7000 set on the ground. Plus I have a 494 that I used to plant sweet corn with. So I measures it on the ground. The 7000 is taller. A whole three inches to the top of the seed corn boxes!!!!!!

As for pulling harder. The guys where just using bigger tractors as they had them . I pulled a JD 7000 6 x 30 planter for years with a JD 2020. I never had any problems pulling it even full of fertilizer.

So I guess you just don't like to have a good stand and more uniform emergence. You try to get 200 corn with an old 494/694 and you will have a hard time getting a good enough job done unless you have perfect weather and soil conditions.
 
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