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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Got my snowblower suppose to be for a 716 but will fit my 410 with a little modifications. Took some pictures for you guys to see what you thought and how to mount the snowblower on it. I would appreciate it if someone could share how there 300 or 400 series hooks up so I can make it work. Thanks




 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I can't help with the blower however since your tractor does not have 4 wheel drive, you should swap the front rims from one side to the other if you want it to turn better in the snow and elsewhere.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'd always heard that but its not true I put a set on a JD 445 one runing one way one the other and absolutely no difference in how they turn
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Then you better be sending a letter to John Deere, CAT, Volvo, Case and any other major manufacturer that produces road graders because according to you, they've been mounting front tires the wrong way ever since they began building them.


The reason you heard that.....is because it is true.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've had a snowplow on it before and I thought it turned pretty well
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Large tractors and garden tractors are totally different and just for the record I have an Oliver
1650 with tractors treads on the front running
'forward' and it turns just fine.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

in my years with construction equipment the fronts (on motor graders) where turned around if not powered so that they would clean better in mud and thus would turn better I did find that true in our slick clay/gumbo soils here anyway, later we went to radial tires that were bidirectional so it did not make a differance then, a few times when we had flats and the shop spare was running the wrong direction you could only tell the differance when in slick muddy conditions in dry dirt or sand I never seen a real differance then my two cents cnt
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A steering axle is a steering axle no matter whether it is on a motor grader or an Ag tractor or a garden tractor. It's purpose is to make the machine turn in the direction the Operator points it in.

The tires are expected to bite into the surface and turn the tractor with no slippage. Running Ag bar tread tires backward on steering axles that are not powered is a long established fact. No reputable tire company would mount them any other way.

If the front end of your tractor does not "push" when turning sharply in snow, then don't reverse them. If you find that it does push forward instead of turning immediately, then for all the effort it takes to swap them over, you just might want to give my suggestion a try.

Ask yourself this question. Can millions of users be wrong compared to one guy on this forum who claims to have experienced a different result?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Go to a dealers lot ALL the 4WD tractors have the
the front tires mounted the same as the rear.You need to come out of Mama's basement sometime.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would know that this discussion is NOT about machinery with front wheel drive. On equipment with powered steering axles, the tires must be mounted the same as the rear tires.

On equipment that does not have a powered steering axle, the tires get mounted in reverse.

Perhaps you need to return to school to learning how to read and understand written English.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You still gotta steer a 4WD as most 4WD tractors are run in 2 WD much of the time.Actually 4WD drives needs them mounted backwards on the front if it has a loader because going into a pile of dirt the frontend comes up anyway and the tractor needs the traction on the front to get a grip to back out.Get Mom to bring you down a glass of warm milk and a couple of Prosac.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

some guy's just don't get it Tom,, not worth the effort to explain as it seems he already knows all
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This sort of thing is pretty typical for Traditional Farmer, I'm afraid.

It shows up in quite a few of his posts. All forums have people like this that think they know what they are talking about but come up short all the time.

As you can see in his latest post, he is confused about which end of the tractor comes up when you are using a loader. That's pretty sad and very indicative of his lack of expertise. Hopefully his guardian is making sure he is being treated for his malady. He's so convinced he is right about this issue, he will argue that black is actually the new white.

In the meantime, I suggest that he be ignored until pronounced "CURED".


Oh.... and as for me...... Up until this summer, I owned SEVEN Champion road graders that were used for summer work as well as being on contract for snow clearing work in a major city. Over the course of my career, I have operated 4 wheel drive rubber tired loaders, many brands of skid steer loaders, tractor/loader backhoes, crawler loaders, crawler excavators, dozers, compaction equipment and chain trenchers as well as the graders. I have worked in road building, sewer and water main construction, home building and property development. After 50 years in the construction industry, I'm pretty sure I know which way the tread should face on machinery.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ya I agree with you. I have them on that direction for a reason. Got the snowblower all hooked up all that's left is to make the pulleys work. I will post pictures when it's all done, maybe a video to if it snows anxious to use it.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Got it but need a little help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Traditional farmer..... i was reading these forums and seen said you have a lot of garden tractors. I seen you said you had a lot of fords and simplicity's and wondered if you could post some pictures love looking at those. Thanks
 
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