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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Has anyone converted a John Deere 8ft FB grain drill to 3pt would like to do it my tractor should handle it a Int.656. If anyone has done this please let me know the pros and cons.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

first question is why? It is possible to do, you'd simply remove the tongue and attach an a-frame for 3-point in its place. I don't know if you'd still want a way to disengage the seeder drive or not. That might get tricky if it's a clutch lift. On con I can think of is that the drill won't follow the lay of the land as well on 3-point. Front of the tractor goes down, drill lifts up a little, back of the tractor goes down, drill digs a little deeper. Another concern I have is if the frame of an FB is rugged enough to pick up and put down repeatedly without failing.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I agree with Tim. If you want a 3pt drill why not buy a "TRUE" 3pt drill.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What would be the difference between mine and a TRUE 3pt drill other then the cost. I just think it would work better on my small odd shape field not so much turning and running over the seeded ground
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I understand the thought for getting into corners to plant, but seems it would have more negatives than positives in the big scheme of things.

Forgetting it in the ground and turning too sharp would be devistating to one not designed for 3pt use, the side-load would make a lot of rumples....

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So I didn't think about the side pressure thats why I posted here thanks for the input
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Frame would not stand ont time lifting if boxes filled and you would still need the wheels for depth control plus driving the seeding mechanisem. There is a reason the AC snap coupler drills did not go over and they were designed as a mounted drill.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 6' IH drill thats 3pt.works ok,you must lift at every end,or every corner if going 'round n round'.Leave it in gear.'Lifted' with an H farmall.


 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback. Are there any low budget 3pt drills out there they must not be very popular.I would need to leave it down to go around slow curves.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've never seen those sort of wheels under an older IHC drill up here, is that something that came with it, or cobbled together from a different drill?

What drives the drill meters, those thin wheels?

Actually, I don't see any seed openning disks, or seed tubes?????? Really? Does a drill work without those in your climate, or is it just not showing up in the pics?

Interesting.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is a 'press drill'.The press wheels were moved from behind to underneath.You are observant!The tubes and disk openers are gone.they were removed because they were all broken,missing,etc.The thin wheels turn the metering shaft.Since we irrigate everything,I simply let the seed fall,the 'harrow,coveres.They I make corrugetes/water'marks',which covers the seed.This was a horse drill,them converted to a 'tractor' drill,then to a 3 point.Steve
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Marliss and Tye are two companies that made quite a few smaller 3-point drills 20-30 years ago. . . but neither is a current production brand. AGCO still has some parts for Tye, and Sukup made the Marliss line until recently, so parts are still available, but for how long?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I noticed your very dry ground, in other pics too.

Irrigation, that would make your drill work just fine, makes perfect sense then.

You ever plant beans with it, or only small grains? I've not been a fan of drilled beans for me, but some do it around here.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We only plant pinto beans,not soys.No soys are grown in Co.Pintos are planted in (30") rows.Only grain is planted with a drill.In fact,most grain is 'spread/brodcast with a fert spreader.We then cover with a roller harrow/culti- mulcher,then 'marked'.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 3pt Grain Drill Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That looks like it would be a nice rig to plant alfalfa
 
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