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John Schmincke
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Found a nice flat piece of asphalt to do this split to replace the stuck clutch. Need to ask as someone posted a step x step of how to do this some 21 pages back but since it is so far back in time, I can't locate it. Wondering also where can I get dependable parts needed for this project. I want to replace the thro out bearing and tranny seal while in there and whatever else you might suggest. Is there a kit that offers these pieces? It is for a 47 2N front mount.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The I&T FO4 manual has a pretty good step by step for splitting.
If you don't have that manual I suggest you get one.
If you do have the manual, read the section on splitting a couple of times before you start.
First of all drive a wedge in on both sides of the front axle so it doesn't roll sideways.
I like to block up the engine half and use a floor jack to roll the rear half away from the front. Easier to roll the back half than the front.
I do not like jack stands for working on tractors.
I prefer wooden cribbing like is in the photo. Much safer.
If you don't have wood cribbing go to Home Despot and pick out the crookedest, most twisted 6"X6" in the pile. Throw it on a cart and push it to the front and ask the manager to discount it cause it's so crooked. Don't tell him what you want it for. You'll get it for about 1/2 price. Then take it home and cut it into 2' pieces.
You are wise to replace the tranny input seal. Also inspect the ring gear for excessive wear while you are in there.
Just take your time, read the manual and it is actually pretty easy to do a split. I have always had good luck buying parts from YTMAG. I like to support our hosts who provide this free site.


 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jim.UT did a nice set of pictures when he split his 850. The process is the same for your 8N. Well worth a view.

Maybe Jim will stop by, but until then try this post. Thank him when you get a chance.

http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ford&th=462556

Click on the link in the post.

For parts. This site carries what you need. Post back if you can't find them. Or Email me - Email is open on the Modern Side
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I got photobucket to open but the pics wouldnt come in. I would have liked to see that. Ill try again later today. Might be the op system here.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This is one of the pics sent in from my original post some 20 pages back where I could see this crib for under the engine. This is helpful but thanks for mentioning the F04 manual. I do have one, read it about a year ago and forgot it mentions splitting. Guess I thought I read it here. I'll make a note about the ring gear.
Thanks Ultradog
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Lift front by the steering shaft

raise the rear with rolling floor jack on transmission housing.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jim's been having some problems with his Photobucket pictures. Something to do with his log-on name and the new Beta system. If you have a Photobucket account, try switching back to the old system. That worked for me.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The best and easiest way to do this is to attach a chain hoist to the steering wheel at it's center and put a rolling floor jack under the clutch housing. Remove the caps from the radius rods at the front of the running boards. Remove the bolts from the steering sector where it bolts to the clutch housing. Remove any wires to the rear of the tractor such as tail or work lights. Remove the battery and the bolts that are around the circumference of the clutch housing. Tie a rope around the hood and the oil pan to help support some of the weight. I only did this occasionally did this but it just might be less stressful on the other stuff that will be hanging from the steering wheel.
Raise the chain hoist and the battery box will come above the clutch housing and allow it to clear when the rear of the tractor is rolled back. This is a good time to also check to be sure all the bolts in the auxillary transmission are tight because they are famous for falling off the front of the transmission when they get some age on them.
I would also check the clutch condition by removing the pressure plate and inspect it closely for broken springs or loose rivets holding the facing on. Also check the pilot bearing or bushing in the flywheel for wear. Always replace the throw out bearing.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For my first split, after seeing some of the posts on this site, I went to Home Depot. Loaded 3 nice 10" 4x6 on cart. Took them to their cutting area and told them I wanted them cut into 16.5" sections. Those cuts will give you 3 pieces on each layer, alternate for stability. They put a guy on it and he cut each piece to exact length, gave me 21 pieces, plus 3 small end cuts, cost $45.00, here in CA. Well worth the peace of mind when heavy tractor is well cribbed. You"ll be surprised how many other uses show up real quick.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Typo: 10' not 10"
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

John some of the suggestions below might not work on your 2-N as the 2-N steering wheel wil be on the rear half of the split. My email is open send me one and tonight I will send you some pics. Have to leave now joe
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

PUT WOOD WEDGES ON FRONT AXEL TO FRAME ,THIS IS SO THE FRONT PART OF TRACTOR WONT FLOP OVER .THE ONLY THING IN THE FRONT IS THE CENTER PIN NOTHING KEEPS IT FROM GOING SIDE TO SIDE.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Me and photobucket are on a running email dialog about the issues caused by their new system. Because my username is Jim.UT, their new system can't handle usernames that contain punctuation.

They have instructed me to open a new account with a new username and they will try to transfer all my albums and photos over to the new username. Of course all old links in the archives will be useless at that point, but it seems that they are pretty much useless now anyway.

When (if) I get my photobucket account squared away again, I'd be happy to send you the valid link to my 850 clutch replacement album.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You"ll be surprised how many other uses show up real quick

Amen! I drive down a twisty canyon road pretty regularly. About every other week, especially in winter, someone tags the guardrail. That usually results in a few broken guardrail posts. I like to watch for the repair crews to come fix it. Then as soon as they leave, I swoop in and gather up all the broken timbers. They are 6" x 8" and usually about 2 feet long (depending on where they broke). I take them home and cut off the jagged ends. I use them all the time.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Preparing to do a 1st time split Reply to specific post Reply with quote

John Schmincke wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:44:04 11/12/12) I got photobucket to open but the pics wouldnt come in. I would have liked to see that. Ill try again later today. Might be the op system here.
Thanks Kurt
If you have a photobucket account switch to old version and you can see Jims 850 split pictures.
 
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