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andrew branagh
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I finally got the 300 from the old ranch and it runs great. However, based on our hilly ground, i need to replace my tricyle front end with the adjustable wide-tread front axel. I am told that the model H and 300 are the same set up. Can anyone suggest a good site or place to go to try to find this set up? I have struck out at two sites in California. Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

They come up from time to time. Craigslist, ebay, here, many other sites they can and will come up but be ready. They usually don't go real cheap. Probably the absolute lowest youll see is 200-300. Your life is worth that much though so it's a good investment.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check with your salvage yards locally then wherever is closest. Watch the wants ads and search the internet. Freight can add up if it's too far from you.

I had a wide front on a Super H and took it off because I didn't like the turning radius. It brought $500 several years ago.

A wide front end can lead to a false sense of security. They tip only lightly less than the narrow front ends if at all. A wide front end raises the pivot point about 2', point is it still pivots. Set your rear wheels as wide as you can stand it, load up the weight on the front and rear as much as is practical for what your wanting to do.

Most important is to use common sense.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Welcome to Scrounging 101.

One look at one or two websites does not constitute a thorough search. Keep going back. What wasn't there yesterday, may be there today.

There's no single, reliable, source for used wide front ends. It's not like you can go to Wide Front End Walmart, throw one in a cart, and go to the checkout.

Where to look? Anywhere, EVERYWHERE. Ebay, craigslist, local classifieds, regional farm publications. Find the tractor salvage yards in your area. Find the ones within a comfortable drive.

Anything from an H to a 350 will fit, but you do not want an original H wide front, with the tie rod out front. Those take a football field to turn around.

Wide fronts mostly improve the ride in rough fields, because instead of both front tires hitting the bump, only one does, and the effect is cut in half.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Where in CA are you? I have had a 300 in the past and have a wide front from a yard in Delano left over, you can come and take alook at it and make an offer. 760-245-3402 Chuck
high desert near victorville
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

andrew branagh wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:40:03 11/13/12) I finally got the 300 from the old ranch and it runs great. However, based on our hilly ground, i need to replace my tricyle front end with the adjustable wide-tread front axel. I am told that the model H and 300 are the same set up. Can anyone suggest a good site or place to go to try to find this set up? I have struck out at two sites in California. Thanks.


Not worth it. Cars get their stability from having two wheels in the front because the suspension is in two spots, near each wheel. On these tractors, there is one pivot point. If you were on hilly ground and the tractor started to go over, having a wide front wont stop that from happening, it might(very big might) stop the tractor from going completely over when the front axle has gone its complete range of motion but by that point something is going to break anyways.

Wide fronts from what I can tell are for one reason. For crop tractors, they are so you can get them between crop rows. With a narrow front your tractor touches ground in 3 spots, with no adjustment on the front wheel(s). With my A for example, I can adjust the width of the front and rear wheels to go between crop rows.
On other tractors like the W series, non crop tractors, there isn't an option really.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Plenty of row cropping has been done with narrow-front tractors. They fit down between the rows just fine, unless the rows are REAL narrow. At that point, the rows too tight for regular rear tires too.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

andrew branagh wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:40:03 11/12/12) I finally got the 300 from the old ranch and it runs great. However, based on our hilly ground, i need to replace my tricyle front end with the adjustable wide-tread front axel. I am told that the model H and 300 are the same set up. Can anyone suggest a good site or place to go to try to find this set up? I have struck out at two sites in California. Thanks.


70% of that tractors weight is on the rear wheels. Only 30% is on the front. A wide front axle will do very little to add any stability. If you add some ballast to the rear, such as fluid filled tires or cast iron wheel weights, you can probably get rear to front weight ratio close to 80%/20%.

If you just plain like the LOOKS of a wide front axle, go for it, but it will NOT make the tractor any safer.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

mkirsch wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:13:47 11/13/12) Plenty of row cropping has been done with narrow-front tractors. They fit down between the rows just fine, unless the rows are REAL narrow. At that point, the rows too tight for regular rear tires too.

Plenty of things have been done with narrow fronts. The main purpose of the wide front end on high crop tractors was to align with the rear tires and go down the rows.

It does very little if anything for stability because there is a single pivot point.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

PretendFarmer wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:07:22 11/14/12)
mkirsch wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:13:47 11/13/12) Plenty of row cropping has been done with narrow-front tractors. They fit down between the rows just fine, unless the rows are REAL narrow. At that point, the rows too tight for regular rear tires too.

Plenty of things have been done with narrow fronts. The main purpose of the wide front end on high crop tractors was to align with the rear tires and go down the rows.

It does very little if anything for stability because there is a single pivot point.


I agree on the stability. If anything it provides a false sense of security.

The way you made it sound, though, is that a narrow front tractor is no good for row crops. That is simply not true.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

mkirsch wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:07:15 11/14/12)
PretendFarmer wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:07:22 11/14/12)
mkirsch wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:13:47 11/13/12) Plenty of row cropping has been done with narrow-front tractors. They fit down between the rows just fine, unless the rows are REAL narrow. At that point, the rows too tight for regular rear tires too.

Plenty of things have been done with narrow fronts. The main purpose of the wide front end on high crop tractors was to align with the rear tires and go down the rows.

It does very little if anything for stability because there is a single pivot point.


I agree on the stability. If anything it provides a false sense of security.

The way you made it sound, though, is that a narrow front tractor is no good for row crops. That is simply not true.


its not that a narrow is no good. If I had to pick between the two, I'd pick a wide front for row crops.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Farmall 300 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi Chuck, I just tried the telephone number on your post and it didnt work. Can you call me? 530-304-3724 re the wide front end.
Andrew
 
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