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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:23 am    Post subject: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

whats it take to make an old 2cly john deere run on natual gas will a lp gas conversion run on natural gas any tec info on this subject would be grate
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

we got a gas well on the land and i think we can tap on the main distribution line for fulling over 200 wells on that line we get 125,000 cubic feet each on 2 houses hook up, its 250.0000 ft free on both places a year free, the rest is well head price,
like to use it it cost us half a million to get this small well
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A 4500psi compressor and a 4500psi tank the size of a 60 gallon water heater tank.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, that is the down side off natural gas...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Why not get a natural gas fired electric generator and run your house/barn/shop and electric car?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Also check if your elecric company will buy excess electicity from you, and what they pay per Kilowatt-Hour.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Any old diesel runs just fine on natural gas. Just leave the injection pump at slow idle delivery rate.
Add NG to the intake airflow with an ordinary NG or LP mixer. Have a governor control rpm by varying only the NG flow.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

its my fathers gas he gets 125,000 cubic feet free for his home and my uncle gets 125,000 cubic feet we got two taps after that is well head price like $2.80 1000ft we are new to natural gas , i seen my dad friend run a 351 ford power sawmill using a gas line down the 2 barrle carb running it on both gas and natural gas , it cut reg gas use in in half, was wonder if 4 tanks mounted on a 60 jd on the air intake side would cut cost or a 3020 gas set up like that
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

two tanks would fit on the side frame of a jd 60 2 short ones on the front make a steel safty cover pipe it in the front side of the carb dual fule , we are looking into gas lights gen and heat , you cant back feed a gen only solar or small wind turbine here, unless i run a small wind turbine off a small gas motor
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am trying to promote the use of natural gas farm equipment. Any stories, or other information would be helpful.

Natural gas is the future of energy. It is replacing dirty old coal plants, and dangerous expensive nuclear plants. It will fuel cars, vans, buses, locomotives, aircraft, ships, tractors, air conditioners, engines of all kinds. It costs far less. It will help keep us out of more useless wars, where we shed our blood and money. It lowers CO2 emissions. Over 2,700 natural gas story links on my blog. An annotated bibliography of live links, updated daily. The big picture of natural gas.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Crude half @ssee cob jobs like that cause fires, explosions, injuries and death.
Who here can"t figure out the savings in fuel costs will easily pay for a proper mixer . Then safely and with the correct mixture run either gasoline or NG.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We see you single minded , blinkered and blinded advocates or zealots for any and every cause.
Getting to the practical side and obeying the laws of physics.
Modern coal plants run cheaper than gas and are clean. Why portray a coal plant from the 1940's?
Not every building or machine is connected to a NG pipeline.
Ever calculate the energy required to compress 4500 psi NG. Then the size, weight and short range limit applications to buses, trains and ships.
Don't waste out time either telling us that cryogenic storage is practical for vehicles, airplanes, farm equipment etc.
Given your years of experience working inside a variety of nuclear plants. You are certainly qualified to comment on the industry.
Electricity from nuclear supplies power to locations and industry that NG can not provide a practical supply.
Conversion of NG to alcohol using a catalist and nuclear
steam will provide an economical source of liquid energy for mobile machinery and vehicles..
NG has it's place and most of the applications are already utililized.
The current glut of cheap NG isn't forever either 5-10 years and the price will climb. There is centuries of coal and nuclear energy waiting to be harnessed.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

my dads a 3rd gen umwa deap mine coal miner my brother is to a 4th gen miner. My oldest brother is head mechanic in the operating engineers pipe line on 400 pieces of equipment ON the big gas well line my oldest brother is making $4200+ $1500 a week on the mechanics truck company truck to drive home every day pay for all his fule and gas and tourches GAS GAS FOR THE welders trucks gas + $65 A DAY FOR HIS RINO , A coal miner IN two weeks of 12 hours SHIFS will not bust $3200 in the coal mine
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My first thoughts were it will be hard to not get tangled up in that long hose to feed it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: natural gas Reply to specific post Reply with quote

the company my oldest brother worked for he done saved them $140,000, they had a dozer blow up with a 140,000 engine core they had no core here they found a good core covered in trash in a dumpster on down the pipe line when he first got back
 
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