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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am looking for an OEM belly pump cover for an M...

Any one have one they are willing to sell?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just a 14 gauge sheet with holes. Not really hard to make. Few would check its authenticity. Get a paper tracing, and make one. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Are you thinking of the belt pulley cover Jim? The belly pump is a large cast piece that I have on one of my H's.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm with neblic. There is a really fancy cast plate used when no belly pump is installed. Maybe you are talking about the tin inspection plate behind the belly pump or the belt pulley?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

sflem849 wrote:
(quoted from post at 00:14:50 11/16/12) I'm with neblic. There is a really fancy cast plate used when no belly pump is installed. Maybe you are talking about the tin inspection plate behind the belly pump or the belt pulley?


You are correct - it is a cast plate. If any one has made one out of steel I would love to see pictures...
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have one for an M, but there is a big crack. But it is still one piece. My e-mail is open
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is a pic of mine.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

charlieu wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:54:09 11/15/12) I have one for an M, but there is a big crack. But it is still one piece. My e-mail is open


I would think you could weld it on the backside for strength and get by with it.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does it cover the fly wheel gear that is exposed? Or is that still exposed with the cover on?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote


My 1940 M had a belly pump cover made from heavy gauge sheet metal when I bought it. I have since removed that cover and installed a belly pump. I guess the sheet metal cover was okay, 'cause it did the job, but I really think an original, cast iron cover would be much better, because the cast iron cover will add structural integrity to the torque tube.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

MisterT wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:24:52 12/03/12)
My 1940 M had a belly pump cover made from heavy gauge sheet metal when I bought it. I have since removed that cover and installed a belly pump. I guess the sheet metal cover was okay, 'cause it did the job, but I really think an original, cast iron cover would be much better, because the cast iron cover will add structural integrity to the torque tube.


I would agree with all of that. The cover must not be too important for strength. My reasoning is this...At a tractor pull most guys pull their belly pump and leave the hole open. They are putting quite a bit of short term stress on their torque tube when pulling. I have yet to hear about on cracking the torque tube. That said, plowing day in and day out may be harder on it than tractor pulling. It is a smaller load, but more flexing and stressing duration.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: Belly pump cover Reply to specific post Reply with quote

sflem849 wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:12:08 12/03/12)
MisterT wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:24:52 12/03/12)
My 1940 M had a belly pump cover made from heavy gauge sheet metal when I bought it. I have since removed that cover and installed a belly pump. I guess the sheet metal cover was okay, 'cause it did the job, but I really think an original, cast iron cover would be much better, because the cast iron cover will add structural integrity to the torque tube.


I would agree with all of that. The cover must not be too important for strength. My reasoning is this...At a tractor pull most guys pull their belly pump and leave the hole open. They are putting quite a bit of short term stress on their torque tube when pulling. I have yet to hear about on cracking the torque tube. That said, plowing day in and day out may be harder on it than tractor pulling. It is a smaller load, but more flexing and stressing duration.


I'm not totally convinced either, but if strength was not issue, why were the original covers made of heavy cast iron instead of just sheet metal?
 
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