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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm about to give up, I have two GOOD hat rims with good tires on them that I want to take off. I have no idea how long they have been mounted. These tires were on a tractor I bought. I bought a slide-hammer bead breaker tool, like the tire shop uses, however after several tries I have almost zero progress. Does anybody have a magic way to do this job?
thanks, joe
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This is what I use Joe.
Bead breaker
Also some good tire lube.
Dish soap may help if you don't have bead butter.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If it was me I would take it to that Tire shop.Some things are best left to the experts. Just my opinion. Go to the pub and have a few and come back it will be done.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

DITTO !!! also the pub part !
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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I"ve found that if I took a six foot or so pc of channel iron about 6 or 8 inches wide or 4x4 wood post, put the end right on the rubber up against the rim, drive a pickup tire up on the 4x4 and let the weight of the front end of a pickup slowly work the tire free of the rim. A little soapy water helps also
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Unless you really know how to do it they can be and will be a pain. Me it is easy but then I did work at a number of gas stations and tires shops over the years. To me it would be child's play but I do have the tools and the know how and have done hundreds of them over the years. Tricks are a mix of dish soap and water and soaking and then having the knowledge of how to work a hammer the right way or in my case I have a tool that works with air that works very well. Send me an e-mail and I can send you a page from a Ford owners manual that might help you
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This is what I have.(if the ulr works)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The tires rust to the rims given enough time in the weather. If the tire is no good I cut them off. If the tire is good I use loader or back hoe or excavator to persuade it. Another way is to back over it, just clearing the rim with your pick-up.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have never seen a tire that could not be broken down with a decent slide hammer.

The correct procedure is to hammer the slide hammer in toward the rim between the tire and the rim. Move 3" - 4" inches and repeat. Using the slide hammer vertically is ineffective.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes I tryed to use my loader but it has no down pressure. I want to save the tires as they are very good. I have no idea how long they have been on the rims, maybe 30-40 years? Rust YES!
Thanks everybody for the advice! joe
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

old-9 wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:26:52 11/15/12) I'm about to give up, I have two GOOD hat rims with good tires on them that I want to take off. I have no idea how long they have been mounted. These tires were on a tractor I bought. I bought a slide-hammer bead breaker tool, like the tire shop uses, however after several tries I have almost zero progress. Does anybody have a magic way to do this job?
thanks, joe


I thought I had a good hat rim, until I got the tire off!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Been there done that.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Those rusted on tires can be tough !
I have had good luck with the following method. Place a piece of plywood under the front of your biggest tractor where the tire will go. Case 1070 in my case. Place the tire/rim under the tractor. Place a 7000 pound Hiforce jack (cotton wagon jack) with the foot against the rim and the jack tongue under the tractor axle. Crank the jack up until the tire flattens out completely. Usually this will break the bead. If it does not, work your way around the rim doing the same thing. When it breaks loose you will hear it easily. Then turn the tire over and do the same thing to the other side.
The jack will really flatten the tire. I have never hurt a tire using this method and I have done a number of horror cases.
Hope this helps !
Thanks !
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We just put rear tires on a 140 farmall and used a chain wrapped around/through rim and tire with a bottle jack sitting on a short(you decide length) piece of board. Jack up the bottle jack and as it tightens the chain, the tire separated from rim, turn over and do other side as well. It worked real well.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: tire dismounting? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have never seen a tire that regardless of the amount of rust would not break loose using a slide hammer and dish soap. The dish soap makes all the difference in the world.
 
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