Tractor   
 Parts
We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  Click Here or call 800-853-2651
Yesterday's Tractors

   Allis Chalmers Case Cockshutt Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   H. Ferguson John Deere Massey Minn. Moline Oliver All The Rest

Marketplace
Tractor Manuals
Tractor Parts
Classified Ads
Photo Ads

Shop for Parts:

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journal
Tractor Town
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
3-Point Specs
Paint Codes
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Related Sites
The Tractor Shed
TractorLinks.com
Ford N-Series Club
Garden Tractors
Today's Tractors
Classic Trucks
Kountry Life

Enter your email address to receive our newsletter!
subscribe
unsubscribe

Content Guide
Picture List - TOC
Ad Archives - TOC
Manuals - TOC

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

This is the modern view of the Yesterday's Tractors Forums. Just login with your YT Userid and password to post. If you have trouble logging in, contact us by email to support at ytmag.com, or through the Reader Form, and we will get you going right away.

Sleeve Removal Puck Sizes

 
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Farmall & International Harvester (IHC)
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
equeen
Regular


Joined: 04 Feb 2011
Posts: 300


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Sleeve Removal Puck Sizes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have an opportunity to have a few sleeve removal pucks made at a very reasonable price. I'd appreciate help regarding dimensions.

It appears that the block bore and sleeve OD at the seal for two engines I'm working with at the moment is 3 7/16 (3.4375).

Question 1: What should be the "outer" diameter of the puck?

Question 2: What should be the "inner" diameter of the puck for:

3 1/4 bore sleeves?

3 1/8 bore sleeves?

3.1875 bore sleeves?

Question 3: How thick should the "steel" puck be from the bottom of the puck to the cut for the "inner diameter" of the puck?

Thanks.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
El Toro
Tractor Guru


Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Posts: 20286


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Sleeve Removal Puck Sizes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You may also need the measure the block so the outside diameter of your pucks will clear the block. If the bore diameter on the sleeve is 3.00" at the seal under cut the puck to 2.990" to 2.987". On the 3.125" bore undercut puck to 3.115" to 3.113" and on the 3.1875 bore undercut to 3.1865-3.1863". Since these sleeves are probably worn, a .010" undercut on the puck should fit easily into the bore of your worn sleeve. Hal
 
Back to top
View user's profile
equeen
Regular


Joined: 04 Feb 2011
Posts: 300


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Sleeve Removal Puck Sizes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks, El Toro.

Man is that 3.25 bore a thin-walled sleeve!
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Nebraska Kirk
Tractor Expert


Joined: 31 Jul 2004
Posts: 1682


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Sleeve Removal Puck Sizes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have made several of those pucks for pulling sleeves, I always make the inside diameter .010" smaller than the sleeve bore. As far as the outside of the puck is concerned, is all depends on the outside diameter of the sleeve. Different diameters of sleeves have different wall thicknesses, as well as dry versus wet sleeves, there is no standard that says X + sleeve bore = outside diameter.

I usually make the step from smaller to larger diameters 3/16" to 1/4" wide.
 


Last edited by Nebraska Kirk on Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
equeen
Regular


Joined: 04 Feb 2011
Posts: 300


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Sleeve Removal Puck Sizes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks, Kirk.

I understand the different wall thickness. However, it would seem that the block bore, unless tinkered with, would be the same for 3 1/8 to 3 1/4 sleeves.

Looking at a sleeve and piston kit for 3 1/4 overbore - stepped piston - 3.436 Lower Sleeve Diameter. One of my blocks currently has 3 1/4 pistons. Thus I'm "assuming" that lower sleeve diameter is ~ 3.436. If I'm assuming correctly, what should be the largest diameter of the puck to pull the sleeve and clear the block?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Nebraska Kirk
Tractor Expert


Joined: 31 Jul 2004
Posts: 1682


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Sleeve Removal Puck Sizes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Make the larger diameter of the puck at least .010 smaller than the outside diameter of the bottom of the sleeve. On the thicker walled wet sleeves you can go a little smaller yet, say .020
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Farmall & International Harvester (IHC) All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Discount Prices for Parts! You can help support this extensive website by purchasing your tractor parts, manuals and merchandise from our [ Antique Tractor Store ] or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ More Info ]

YT Home | Tractor Manuals | Tractor Parts | Forum Home

Copyright © 1997-2013 Yesterday's Tractor Co. - A Washington State Corporation

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters